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Old October 28, 2009, 06:14 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Punksdead
80 Undead Warlock
Nordrassil Euro PvE
Guild: Horizon
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Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Dumb as I can be....

After spending more than half an hour on reading quite a lot of situations, I still can't find what I'm looking for.
Here is my profile - rather mediocre compared to my guildies' but still...

Hit cap is not an issue here - was just interchanging items - nor is the kriss enchant (63 SP)

For about a month now, i've been heroic dummy struggling at around 4.5k. I believe that I suck dpsing - saw a lock in onyxia 25 doing 7.5k dps in T7 and T8 - i know unbelievable - with same spec.

Of course, im buffed like everyone else, im using same rotation....
For my question now: when do you start casting the 2nd, 3rd incinerate?
I tried many poss but most:
- using quartz, when the casting time of the first one reaches aprox 70% i start spamming not more than 3 times
- at aprox 85% i only tap the key once
i dont know how and why but i sometimes peak 5k

I dont know what else i could be doing wrong - i dont clip immo, i use all spells imm after cooldown.

Thx for helping

Its a very easy combination, can't figure where the differences come from

PS: read a guy's opinion on spammin' thus increasing dps by 500 -here on the forum, so he also uses this "technique"

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Old October 28, 2009, 07:55 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Pervlock
80 Human Warlock
Nagrand Euro PvE
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 54/0/17
Re: Dumb as I can be....

could the difference be partly in criticals ?
One may have higher crit values and crit chance.
Some buffs also increase crit.
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Old October 28, 2009, 11:08 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Toastey
80 Undead Warlock
Cho'gall US PvP
Talent Spec: 0/17/54
3.2 Re: Dumb as I can be....

egg of mortal essence? It's not really a good warlock trinket.
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Old October 28, 2009, 12:11 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Punksdead
80 Undead Warlock
Nordrassil Euro PvE
Guild: Horizon
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Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Dumb as I can be....

regarding 1st answer - right after raid i compared his equip with mine and i had aprox the same crit as him .30% difference or so
regarding 2nd - aye i know it's not a lock trinket - it says so, i just said it was my latest setup - i also have sundial of the exiled trinket ofc have tried with that setup aswell and unfortunately the results are as lame as now

well it seems that my main concern isn't still clraified - thats where i see the difference could be coming from in my opinion - player casting speed lets say it

thx both for the answers though
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Old October 28, 2009, 01:39 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Lichkin
80 Undead Warlock
Caelestrasz Oceania PvE
Guild: JIVETURKEY
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Talent Spec: 5/22/44
Re: Dumb as I can be....

Only way that lock was doing 7.5K in that armor was because he was using rain of fire on the adds. Same thing happened to me yesterday doing 25 man Onyxia; Mage was top of the dps charts doing 11K but he was using his AOE on the adds while the rest of the ranged dps stayed on Onyxia the whole time. Don't worry about it.
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Old October 28, 2009, 01:50 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Jenerena
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Executus Euro PvP
Guild: Deliverance
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Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Dumb as I can be....

Yea you can't really judge it by Onyxia. Some people aoe, some on boss.
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Old October 28, 2009, 03:41 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Punksdead
80 Undead Warlock
Nordrassil Euro PvE
Guild: Horizon
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Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Dumb as I can be....

thx a lot guys for your answer. you must be definetely right

but still could any of you give me a hint on how fast you cast the spells? I mean do you wate for it to end and cast it right after, or you start tapping a litlle earlier?

cheers for your time
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Old October 28, 2009, 04:20 PM   #8 (permalink)

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lilsteele
80 Human Warlock
Terenas Euro PvE

Re: Dumb as I can be....

quartz has this red area that shows you when to start mashing buttons :D

It all depends on lag, sometimes I have to start casting the next spell as soon as the current got registered, on those extreme laggy days... but usually it's around 100-300 ms before the spell is finished.
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