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Trial of the Grand Crusader Trial of the Grand Crusader is a new heroic mode 10- and 25-player raid dungeon in the Crusaders' Coliseum with five encounters, with each encounter being unlocked one week at a time.

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Old October 15, 2009, 03:46 AM   #11 (permalink)

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3.2 Re: Anub Arak.

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I am interested in seeing some DPS for 25 man hard mode Anub Arak. My guild has finally downed him last week and we stack a lot of melee... like... A LOT. We usually on bring 1 warlock for this fight because the DPS is alright until P3 hits. Then it plummets and we are rendered useless.

I'd like to maybe see some charts of warlocks who overcame that or hear advise on how to not be on the bottom of the charts with 6-7k DPS. It's not just me. It's the other warlocks in the guild too.
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Hey Zoria..this is Seurot from Arthas. I think I did a 25 VoA with you the other day.

Yeah..you guys stack melee on that fight. Its hard to beat them on taht fight cause they all cleave and wahtever melee do to hit multiple mobs.

Our guild just got 25HM Faction Champs down tonight, so hopefully we'll get Twins down and get to Anub next raid on Monday.
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Old October 21, 2009, 11:05 AM   #12 (permalink)

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Hey Zoria..this is Seurot from Arthas. I think I did a 25 VoA with you the other day.

Yeah..you guys stack melee on that fight. Its hard to beat them on taht fight cause they all cleave and wahtever melee do to hit multiple mobs.

Our guild just got 25HM Faction Champs down tonight, so hopefully we'll get Twins down and get to Anub next raid on Monday.
I remember you! Yes, oh my god, we stack melee like no other. We barely take any casters. There are only 2 active locks in TG at the moment, me and this other guy... and they always only take one of us.

Btw... WHERE DID you YOU GUYS COME FROM? :O Never heard of your guild before on Arthas... but GOOD LUCK and tell how you guys do on twins and Anub!
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Old October 23, 2009, 10:05 AM   #13 (permalink)

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Question for you guys as I'm not a lock but could use an answer. We single tank the adds on heroic 25 and as suck the cast speed of the shadowstrike gets very fast meaning sometimes an interrupt gets missed resulting in a wipe due to dps loss. We're using mind numbing to get the cas extended however I was wondering if curse tongues also worked on the adds to increase cast time. Any answers would be appreciated.

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Old October 23, 2009, 11:04 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Question for you guys as I'm not a lock but could use an answer. We single tank the adds on heroic 25 and as suck the cast speed of the shadowstrike gets very fast meaning sometimes an interrupt gets missed resulting in a wipe due to dps loss. We're using mind numbing to get the cas extended however I was wondering if curse tongues also worked on the adds to increase cast time. Any answers would be appreciated.

Thanks
Yes, CoT works. But it doesn't stack with mind numbing poison. You will also lose a ton of DPS if you have a warlock micromanage this debuff because CoT because they'll be spending a good chunk of time tab-targetting to get it up on 4 mobs and then tab targetting again just to make sure it is definitely up on all of them (if you truly think you need to rely on CoT).

It's a tough job, but your pally's need to be less fail with their holy wrath. The BigWigs timer on shadow strike is quite good. At least one of your pally's should slow down their rotation slightly if they have trouble casting it and make sure they catch the interrupt. There's no other way around it really.
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Old October 23, 2009, 03:10 PM   #15 (permalink)

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Arthas US PvP
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I remember you! Yes, oh my god, we stack melee like no other. We barely take any casters. There are only 2 active locks in TG at the moment, me and this other guy... and they always only take one of us.

Btw... WHERE DID you YOU GUYS COME FROM? :O Never heard of your guild before on Arthas... but GOOD LUCK and tell how you guys do on twins and Anub!
We got HM Twins down last week for the first time and gave Anub a few tries before raid ended. We only raid twice a week so we don't have as much time as other guilds to work on progression, though we still do pretty well. But on Wed, we cleared normal 25 and downed Twins in 25HM again so it leaves us an entire raid this coming Mon to work on HM Anub. I'll let you know how it goes.

But we actually were onArthas in vanilla WoW. Some of us were actually in TG back in vanilla WoW and went to another server in The Burning Crusade. And we came back to Arthas for LK. So our core has been together a long time now. We do min/max and take raiding seriously but don't want to raid like it's a second job anymore. So we only do 2 raids per week but really try to make the absolute most of the raid time.
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Old October 31, 2009, 05:35 AM   #16 (permalink)

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Re: Anub Arak.

we had a hardtime taking anub down in heroic 10 man.
we're a 10 man only raiding guild, i consider ourselves a bunch of very skilled people, and yet heroic 10 anub is HARD.

our raid composition si like this:
druid MT
pally OT
2x druid healers
resto shamie with elem spec
spriest
mage
warlock(me)
blood dk
unholy dk


this is a very hard composition for anub, cose we lack mortal strike effects for p3.
we have no problems getting him to p3, but then all hell breaks loose. the 2 resto druids have a hard time keeping everybody up, and we have the elem shamie swith to healing in p3(with elem spec)

we are usually getting to anub with 50 tries left, but for our first kill we used 11 tries (so got left with 39, losing the achievement for 45 tries left).

what we did is this:

the paladin OT has a blockset, and in p3 he's tanking the adds with everyone focusing on boss. he is doing the interrupting himself using holy wrath.
healers are the most important in this phase. keeping everyone low is hard for them(they say it's the hardest fight for a healer in all wow). Keeping peeps low wouldn't be that hard if it weren't for the penetrating cold debuff that needs to be healed more.

the most important thing about this fight is to have some nature resistance. At the beggining of p3, our shamie drops NR totem. Our tanks are using flasks or resistance and have gearset with nature resist on them (druid tank for example even has some green items with stamina and NR) They also try and lower their health by using avoidance items over stamina items (dodge trinkets, armor trinkets insead of stamina)+ head items enchanted with nature resist glyphs.

i usually run with a destro spec for everything else in wow, but for this fight i switch to affliction. the dps is a bit lower but:

- i put 3 powerful dots on the big adds, which compined with the dots from our spriest and the cleaves takes them down easy without having anyone in the raid actually focusing them
- as destro, i found myself lacking mana in p3, and lifetapping is really bad in this phase (since you're supposed to be kept around at about 6000 health, and penetrating cold ticks for about 5000)
- with affli spec i can afford lifetapping (+ i have dark pact talented for those extreme moments wehn i can't afford LT-ing)
- since p3 starts at 30%, your dps is high enough cose of all the talents that increase damage on targets below this %. Also, 25% on anub comes really fast, and you'll spend all the time keeping dots up and drain soul executing. The healing from corruption and haunt is amazingly helpful,also using drain life when your get close to 0 health helps alot cose of the talents that increase healing received wehen below 20% health.

PS. Don't expect everyone to be alive when boss dies. we killed him with dots ticking on him with 5 peeps dead
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Old November 12, 2009, 03:05 PM   #17 (permalink)

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Re: Anub Arak.

So... how do you demo locks manage your mana wiht all the AoE that's being done? I'm speaking from a ToGC25 point of view here... I find it almost difficult in both phase 1 and 2... phase 3 is more managable because of the execution phase.
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Old November 12, 2009, 04:18 PM   #18 (permalink)
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So... how do you demo locks manage your mana wiht all the AoE that's being done? I'm speaking from a ToGC25 point of view here... I find it almost difficult in both phase 1 and 2... phase 3 is more managable because of the execution phase.
Huh? How the heck can't you manage mana in P1 and P2 and yet manage it in P3? You still have to AOE in P3 or are you dying before the adds come out?

P1 and P2 is as trivial as any other fight. You just life tap liberally between AOEs but primarily during the burrow phase so after he comes up you are at full mana.

P3 is what is hard because you won't be able to life tap without killing yourself. One of the locks (myself or a 2nd one) will call out that they could use life tap and a healer will help top us up a little just for the purpose of lifetapping a bit but it's usually only necessary towards the last push.
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Old November 17, 2009, 09:52 AM   #19 (permalink)

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Stormscale Euro PvP
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3.2 Re: Anub Arak.

I've been playing mostly as demo on anub, tried out affliction one night but did not work as good. Cant really see how you get so low on damage, I've ended ~2-5place every try & every kill with meta specc, the overpowerness of immo aura is just to sick. Only DK's and sometimes warrior who performs better atm. Was down on ~7k dps with affliction, what rotations do you use as meta? Something has to be so wrong. best regards
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Old November 17, 2009, 12:14 PM   #20 (permalink)

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Huh? How the heck can't you manage mana in P1 and P2 and yet manage it in P3? You still have to AOE in P3 or are you dying before the adds come out?

P1 and P2 is as trivial as any other fight. You just life tap liberally between AOEs but primarily during the burrow phase so after he comes up you are at full mana.

P3 is what is hard because you won't be able to life tap without killing yourself. One of the locks (myself or a 2nd one) will call out that they could use life tap and a healer will help top us up a little just for the purpose of lifetapping a bit but it's usually only necessary towards the last push.
I try to make sure I have a health stone on CD just for this occasion, because as long as I'm at or close to full mana at the start of P3 I usually don't need to LT more than once or twice before he dies.
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