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Old April 19, 2010, 10:07 AM   #11 (permalink)

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Inee
85 Blood Elf Warlock
Burning Blade Euro PvP
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Re: Haste and You!

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42. It's always 42.
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Awesome post, and I'm glad it's been properly recognised - just wish I'd known about it before. I spent 20 minutes trying to explain haste to a fellow lock on Sunday and this would have been great to point them to.

As for additions to it:

Loved the table, but maybe re-ordering it so that people can look up their haste and see which spells are haste capped under various circumstances - rather than the current one showing the seperate haste for each spell? I know the information is already there - but this way would mean slightly less searching for them and might make it a bit more useful for the developing locks needing help.

And a more complex one: Given that each build has different spell priorities/rotations could build three graphs/charts/tables showing haste along one axis, and the haste capped spells along it (one for each build). That way it would reduce the spells/self buffs you have on each one, cutting down information overload and making it easy to see the value (or not) of adding more hste. Could even split the different buffs out so (for example) you could have haste as X-axis, and a row directly above it showing without heroism/BL, and a seperate one above that showing with heroism/BL. Obviously it would be a little more complex with boomkin buff etc, but you get the idea....

Anyhow - awesome guide, and although I'm happy with haste, more haste pls, it was nice to see exactly what's being affected.

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Old April 19, 2010, 11:39 AM   #12 (permalink)

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I made an awesomely useless chart with Falcrists data :D

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Old April 19, 2010, 11:54 AM   #13 (permalink)

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Re: Haste and You!

is there any way this post could be converted into a guide for the right nav area?
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Old April 19, 2010, 12:53 PM   #14 (permalink)

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It's already a guide in the guides section. This reminds me. Can I get edit privileges?
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Old April 19, 2010, 12:55 PM   #15 (permalink)

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I'll ask Milaus to adjust that for you.
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Old April 19, 2010, 04:17 PM   #16 (permalink)

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Re: Haste and You!

Just to get your opinion do you think it would be more viable for dps to switch do firestone as a demo lock after a certain amount of haste? i have 1149 haste atm unbuffed, so at what point would the 1% to direct damage and extra crit be worth more than the haste?
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Old April 19, 2010, 04:48 PM   #17 (permalink)

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42. It's always 42.
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Old April 20, 2010, 02:09 AM   #18 (permalink)

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Just to get your opinion do you think it would be more viable for dps to switch do firestone as a demo lock after a certain amount of haste? i have 1149 haste atm unbuffed, so at what point would the 1% to direct damage and extra crit be worth more than the haste?
Because it takes more crit rating to get 1% crit than it takes haste rating to get 1% haste, I don't think this is ever the correct choice.

It's theoretically possible, but not with stats you can get with current gear.
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Old April 20, 2010, 09:52 AM   #19 (permalink)

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You should have edit privileges, give it a go & let me know if you have problems.
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Old April 20, 2010, 11:47 AM   #20 (permalink)

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Re: Haste and You!

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I made an awesomely useless chart with Falcrists data :D

I imagined it slighty differently:

horizontal, not vertical
extending past the 0 haste into the negatives so you can see which spells you're already haste capped on at that point.

But yeah, love it. It's a nice and simple graph so people can look at it and see in a glance the relative caps - and the value of those buffs.

Nice work
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