TV or WOW... is one worse? - Page 2

Randoru · September 12, 2007, 09:27 AM

I can't really add anything that hasn't been said until now, but I've been in similar conversations with my wife, although we try to avoid insults as they escalate a problem into a crisis. She enjoys watching TV, I enjoy playing WoW. One huge help was when I got a lap top so we were able to at least be in the same room, even sitting next to one another while doing what we enjoy. Even still, the root of the problem is you not spending time with her. If she won't play WoW, and you won't watch TV, you both need to get together and do something else. Go for a walk, go catch a movie, sit at the table and talk, anything to give her some attention. Do this a few times a week and I promise you that will help your situation ten fold.

Manic · September 12, 2007, 09:48 AM

TV is basically watching other people play WOW

WOW is basically playing TV with other people.

To me neither is worse, they're more or less the same thing, except one is more likely to cause carpal tunnel than the other.

I'd suggest turning the TV and Comp off and doing something entirely different. That way you both win.

Necronomis · September 12, 2007, 11:38 AM

I've run into this conflict many times with my woman. My argument is that playing WoW for 4 hours when I get home from work is no worse than sitting there watching crappy reality shows like america's next top model all night. I think her biggest problems come from when I'm in an instance or something and I can't just drop what I'm doing and pay attention to her. It also is kind of annoying how I can be sitting there just goofing around in guild chat while our MT is afk or something and she's no where to be found but as soon as I start a boss encounter and I'm on add-duty or have to CC in large pulls or something that she's got some big issue that requires my immediate attention.

I think the next time she gives me the pissed off *sigh* when I don't respond immediately I'm going to try and put it into terms she can relate. Like when she's watching her favorite TV show (gilmore girls or whatevah), and I walk in the room and attempt to say anything I get a big SHUSH! and she ignores me until commercial. WoW is like that. You're totally in the moment and if someone interrupts they totally ruin it.

Manic · September 12, 2007, 12:27 PM

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My argument is that playing WoW for 4 hours when I get home from work is no worse than sitting there watching crappy reality shows like america's next top model all night

Though mathmatically sound, that type of math has never been, nor ever will be accredited in the curriculum at the University of W. Omen

Edit: At least not in the 16+ years I have been married.

Devicus · September 13, 2007, 11:02 AM

I'm sort of half waiting for a friend of mine to post. It's not his wife but GF of... gawd 2 years nearly. She used to mock him for playing wow, but one day she came over to his and played... that was a month ago. She was level 36 on her mage and 19 on her shaman 2 days ago...

He realises he's lucky though. Not a wife but he's not the sort of guy who I can see ever marrying, even though he'd be happy to settle with one woman for the whole of his life.

And our guild's number 2 is up to +1513 heal and her boyfriend got her into it. Shame he's a hordie, they'd work well together considering he's a pretty hardcore tank.

In the end you need to have her on good terms and win her over. I have found TV a bit dull and some of it positively annoys me. But some people like their daily dose of mental conditioning. afterall without the modern media we wouldn't have people feeling so badly they feel inferior they have to buy and we wouldn't have our booming economies and rise in mental health issues. Yay tv. I love how it glamourises shallow and stupid people. Without the idiot box paris hilton would be a nobody with money.

Rant over. There are good things on TV, and I agree with the line, but you can be more tactful when someone else feels strongly, and I'd hope you can come up with a compromise between you. I think most people would enjoy it if they'd try it, but that's the hard part.

However I'm not any sort of expertwith the ladies, I'm fussy, I'm looking for the sort of girl who *would* try, who, as mentioned in another thread would rather kill me in pvp than buy shoes. Those are rare so as a result I'm not the best person to take advice from about relationship issues.

quattra · September 13, 2007, 12:12 PM

I guess I'm in a little bit of a unique situation here... I'm a girl, and my boyfriend (of over three years) and I were both WoW haters for a long time, but that was before one of his friends actually showed us what it is. We started characters together but I progressed further and faster than he did and eventually he stopped playing his rogue at level 45, while I continued my lock all the way to 70. Now he spends all his free time (hours and hours) reading and posting on internet forums about cars and motorcycles. I can hardly tear him away from the computer when he's doing that, but when I play WoW for three hours, like when doing an instance, he'll stand there and complain and insult me for being "addicted" and "antisocial" which I think is hilarious.. I'm talking to friends on vent all the time, and he should know better having gotten to level 45. My guildies think it's hilarious when I warn them I've got "boyfriend" aggro. :P

On TV versus WoW... there's really no contest there for me. I think TV is a worthless waste of time. I haven't had cable since I moved out of my parents place. I have Netflix and I'll only watch what I want, when I want, with no commercials please and thank you. :P I think each should be able to do what he or she wants without being criticized by the other, as long as some activities are mutually enjoyed (like doing something other than WoW or her TV shows).

P.S. Sorry this post took so long to get to the point, maybe it still doesn't have one I dunno >_<

Ravynn · September 13, 2007, 08:52 PM

It's important to try to balance RL and WoW. And pretty much any reasonable person who plays wow knows that.

That being said, my boyfriend and I have learned the hard way on that. See, I never knew what wow was until my boss started talking about it after Christmas of 2005. In just a few short days, I was talking wow up to my boyfriend and he started getting interested. Then one day after work, I find myself at WalMart spending our giftcards on 2 copies of World of Warcraft. Thus the beginning of a saga. My boyfriend and both played heavily for quite a few months, but we didn't have any problems because we were both playing together, in the same room. However, once he and I got over the "newness" of it, we would start to have some issues because either he'd be playing and I didn't want to (or vice versa) or one or the other of us would come to bed really really late because of an instance that took entirely too long to finish. And then there was that one night that I didn't come to bed at all....

So yeah, I guess what I'm rambling about is that balance is the key. And while it does help when both people understand wow, it doesn't mean that we "wow" couples have no aggro issues. LOL

Daergel · September 14, 2007, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Manic

To me neither is worse, they're more or less the same thing, except one is more likely to cause carpal tunnel than the other.

That depends on what film you're watching...

I have tried to get my wife into WoW, but she cites lack of time as her reason not to get involved.

Besides, if she did start playing we'd have to get another computer; not something that we can afford right now!

Manic · September 14, 2007, 08:24 AM

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That depends on what film you're watching...

Lol! Point well taken

Lazysob · September 14, 2007, 11:27 AM

I think Swoop back on page one had some good comments. It's not really about comparing TV and WoW as to if one is better or worse, it's about maintaining harmony with your significant other and making her/him feel that she/he is still first on your list of priorities.

For me, it took a period of time before my wife grudgingly accepted WoW. I used the same TV argument, but that is a logical argument and in case you haven't learned this yet...women are not about logic, they are about feelings and emotion. That last sentence should have been in CAPS btw. You will need to ween her into your obsession with WoW gradually. Make yourself spend time with her (and enjoy it!). If she watches 3 hours of TV each night, then try to find at least one show that you can watch with her. Tell her that you are there because you want to spend time / be close with her.

It's healthy as a man to do things on your own. To do the things that you want to do for you. However, there is still a stigma to overcome that this is a stupid "childs" game. Some things that helped me with this one is that both of my kids play and I can tell her that I'm spending quality time with my kids. I got another big break when she found out that one of her girl friends is a big gaming fan and plays EQ. That one helped alot. While it is using logic, it doesn't hurt to casually inform her of how many adults actually play WoW.

Both TV and WoW are obsessions, but don't think for a minute that she will buy that logic. Instead, find a way to keep rapport open with her and make her FEEL that she is still number one. If she's not number one, re-examine the path that your life is on.

September 12, 2007, 09:27 AM	#11 (permalink)
Randoru Lurker Character Info Gusmccrae 70 Undead Warlock Illidan US PvP Profile: Blizzard Armory	Re: TV or WOW... is one worse? I can't really add anything that hasn't been said until now, but I've been in similar conversations with my wife, although we try to avoid insults as they escalate a problem into a crisis. She enjoys watching TV, I enjoy playing WoW. One huge help was when I got a lap top so we were able to at least be in the same room, even sitting next to one another while doing what we enjoy. Even still, the root of the problem is you not spending time with her. If she won't play WoW, and you won't watch TV, you both need to get together and do something else. Go for a walk, go catch a movie, sit at the table and talk, anything to give her some attention. Do this a few times a week and I promise you that will help your situation ten fold.

September 12, 2007, 09:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
Manic Member Character Info Tangle 70 Human Warlock Velen US PvE Profile: Blizzard Armory	Re: TV or WOW... is one worse? TV is basically watching other people play WOW WOW is basically playing TV with other people. To me neither is worse, they're more or less the same thing, except one is more likely to cause carpal tunnel than the other. I'd suggest turning the TV and Comp off and doing something entirely different. That way you both win.

September 12, 2007, 11:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
Necronomis Member Character Info Necronomis 80 Undead Warlock Ysera US PvE Profile: Blizzard Armory	Re: TV or WOW... is one worse? I've run into this conflict many times with my woman. My argument is that playing WoW for 4 hours when I get home from work is no worse than sitting there watching crappy reality shows like america's next top model all night. I think her biggest problems come from when I'm in an instance or something and I can't just drop what I'm doing and pay attention to her. It also is kind of annoying how I can be sitting there just goofing around in guild chat while our MT is afk or something and she's no where to be found but as soon as I start a boss encounter and I'm on add-duty or have to CC in large pulls or something that she's got some big issue that requires my immediate attention. I think the next time she gives me the pissed off sigh when I don't respond immediately I'm going to try and put it into terms she can relate. Like when she's watching her favorite TV show (gilmore girls or whatevah), and I walk in the room and attempt to say anything I get a big SHUSH! and she ignores me until commercial. WoW is like that. You're totally in the moment and if someone interrupts they totally ruin it.

September 13, 2007, 11:02 AM	#15 (permalink)
Devicus Member Character Info Devicus 80 Gnome Warlock thunderhorn Euro PvE Guild: Ultra Cohesion Profile: Blizzard Armory	Re: TV or WOW... is one worse? I'm sort of half waiting for a friend of mine to post. It's not his wife but GF of... gawd 2 years nearly. She used to mock him for playing wow, but one day she came over to his and played... that was a month ago. She was level 36 on her mage and 19 on her shaman 2 days ago... He realises he's lucky though. Not a wife but he's not the sort of guy who I can see ever marrying, even though he'd be happy to settle with one woman for the whole of his life. And our guild's number 2 is up to +1513 heal and her boyfriend got her into it. Shame he's a hordie, they'd work well together considering he's a pretty hardcore tank. In the end you need to have her on good terms and win her over. I have found TV a bit dull and some of it positively annoys me. But some people like their daily dose of mental conditioning. afterall without the modern media we wouldn't have people feeling so badly they feel inferior they have to buy and we wouldn't have our booming economies and rise in mental health issues. Yay tv. I love how it glamourises shallow and stupid people. Without the idiot box paris hilton would be a nobody with money. Rant over. There are good things on TV, and I agree with the line, but you can be more tactful when someone else feels strongly, and I'd hope you can come up with a compromise between you. I think most people would enjoy it if they'd try it, but that's the hard part. However I'm not any sort of expertwith the ladies, I'm fussy, I'm looking for the sort of girl who would try, who, as mentioned in another thread would rather kill me in pvp than buy shoes. Those are rare so as a result I'm not the best person to take advice from about relationship issues.

September 13, 2007, 12:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
quattra Lurker Character Info Quattra 70 Gnome Warlock Malfurion US PvE Guild: Fires of Tempest Talent Spec: 43/7/11	Re: TV or WOW... is one worse? I guess I'm in a little bit of a unique situation here... I'm a girl, and my boyfriend (of over three years) and I were both WoW haters for a long time, but that was before one of his friends actually showed us what it is. We started characters together but I progressed further and faster than he did and eventually he stopped playing his rogue at level 45, while I continued my lock all the way to 70. Now he spends all his free time (hours and hours) reading and posting on internet forums about cars and motorcycles. I can hardly tear him away from the computer when he's doing that, but when I play WoW for three hours, like when doing an instance, he'll stand there and complain and insult me for being "addicted" and "antisocial" which I think is hilarious.. I'm talking to friends on vent all the time, and he should know better having gotten to level 45. My guildies think it's hilarious when I warn them I've got "boyfriend" aggro. :P On TV versus WoW... there's really no contest there for me. I think TV is a worthless waste of time. I haven't had cable since I moved out of my parents place. I have Netflix and I'll only watch what I want, when I want, with no commercials please and thank you. :P I think each should be able to do what he or she wants without being criticized by the other, as long as some activities are mutually enjoyed (like doing something other than WoW or her TV shows). P.S. Sorry this post took so long to get to the point, maybe it still doesn't have one I dunno >_<

September 13, 2007, 08:52 PM	#17 (permalink)
Ravynn Member Character Info Ravynn 70 Undead Warlock The Underbog US PvP Guild: Nephilim Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 17/0/44	Re: TV or WOW... is one worse? It's important to try to balance RL and WoW. And pretty much any reasonable person who plays wow knows that. That being said, my boyfriend and I have learned the hard way on that. See, I never knew what wow was until my boss started talking about it after Christmas of 2005. In just a few short days, I was talking wow up to my boyfriend and he started getting interested. Then one day after work, I find myself at WalMart spending our giftcards on 2 copies of World of Warcraft. Thus the beginning of a saga. My boyfriend and both played heavily for quite a few months, but we didn't have any problems because we were both playing together, in the same room. However, once he and I got over the "newness" of it, we would start to have some issues because either he'd be playing and I didn't want to (or vice versa) or one or the other of us would come to bed really really late because of an instance that took entirely too long to finish. And then there was that one night that I didn't come to bed at all.... So yeah, I guess what I'm rambling about is that balance is the key. And while it does help when both people understand wow, it doesn't mean that we "wow" couples have no aggro issues. LOL

September 14, 2007, 11:27 AM	#20 (permalink)
Lazysob Subscriber Character Info Teaspoon 70 Gnome Warlock Hyjal US PvE Guild: Hylander Profile: Blizzard Armory	Re: TV or WOW... is one worse? I think Swoop back on page one had some good comments. It's not really about comparing TV and WoW as to if one is better or worse, it's about maintaining harmony with your significant other and making her/him feel that she/he is still first on your list of priorities. For me, it took a period of time before my wife grudgingly accepted WoW. I used the same TV argument, but that is a logical argument and in case you haven't learned this yet...women are not about logic, they are about feelings and emotion. That last sentence should have been in CAPS btw. You will need to ween her into your obsession with WoW gradually. Make yourself spend time with her (and enjoy it!). If she watches 3 hours of TV each night, then try to find at least one show that you can watch with her. Tell her that you are there because you want to spend time / be close with her. It's healthy as a man to do things on your own. To do the things that you want to do for you. However, there is still a stigma to overcome that this is a stupid "childs" game. Some things that helped me with this one is that both of my kids play and I can tell her that I'm spending quality time with my kids. I got another big break when she found out that one of her girl friends is a big gaming fan and plays EQ. That one helped alot. While it is using logic, it doesn't hurt to casually inform her of how many adults actually play WoW. Both TV and WoW are obsessions, but don't think for a minute that she will buy that logic. Instead, find a way to keep rapport open with her and make her FEEL that she is still number one. If she's not number one, re-examine the path that your life is on.