Strange?

[Pyramidas]

Anyone find it strange while playing WoW, to see a female Warlock? I find it odd. In the real world, Warlock is a term to describe a "male witch", even in the Church of Satan (which actually does not believe in satan as a deity) know's the difference. While the 1st degree (if one is an active member) is a "Satanist" which is for both genders, the 2nd degree and up are not. The 2nd degree title is Warlock/Witch, thus their being a difference by gender. My point really here is that, should the Warlock name be changed in WoW to something else. Something that actually means both male and female, like perhaps Summoner. There is another MMORPG game I know that has Warlock's as a class but is restricted to playing as a male character. But in that same game, their are classes that are restricted to playing as female characters only like Amazon. Even in the movie "Warlock", Warlock's are refered to as the "Sons of Satan." Which clearly says male and not female. I doubt that Blizzard would ever do anything about this but its just one of my thoughts I'd like to share.

[Swoop]

It's a fantasy game. It doesn't have to follow the rules of our world. To be honest, I'd imagine that Blizzard may not want to be known as following the hierarchy of satanic cults; wouldn't give a good impression to many parents of children.

On a personal note, I don't care in the least. While I'm aware of the distinction between warlocks and witches, really, how badly does it impact your play to know that there are female warlocks in WoW? If you're the type of person to obsess over this sort of thing, perhaps you should quit WoW before the other inconsistencies with the "real world" like spell casting, orcs, taurens, etc causes you to freak out and run around naked screaming "The end is nigh!"

It kind of bugs me how people can selectively compare things in-game to real world scenarios, but then completely ignore other aspects that clearly show it's not meant to be following our rules.

[Sefearoth]

I too have looked up warlock many a time in wowiki and wiki,to futher quench my thirst for knowlege on the origan and philosophy of the Warlock. And like you i have found the phrase "male witch" and i also recognize that the church of satan has a religous leader refered to as 'Warlock Blackthrone' and also that they niether worship satan as a god nor anyone else for that matter (except themselves). But refering to restricting the class to a single gender just to justify and old text in an old lore that blizzard probabley doesn't care about anyway seems redundant and besides changing the gender might negate some of our fellow female locks and the last thing we want as the most powerful class in wow is the depopulation of our own kin. So in closing, I respect and recognize your knowlege in the class, outside and inside of wow, but I disagree with reduceing the gender in half. Besides,girl locks are sexy ;) and cool .

[Pyramidas]

perhaps you should quit WoW

That's the number 1 thing I hate people tell me to do. I may not like it, but WoW is still my most favorite game of all-time and I will not quit until I'm dead or Blizzard shuts it down.

our fellow female locks and the last thing we want as the most powerful class in wow is the depopulation of our own kin

Well I don't like to admit but we are not the most powerful class in WoW. Besides Warlocks are supposed to rare in society from WoW lore anyway.

[darkblayde]

Originally Posted by Pyramidas

Well I don't like to admit but we are not the most powerful class in WoW. Besides Warlocks are supposed to rare in society from WoW lore anyway.

you're right about one thing. BM hunters are the most powerful class in WoW (currently). i do not, however, agree with changing the class name of a character simply because women aren't traditionally in that role. it's the same kind of thing as druid/druidess, hunter/huntress, priest/priestess...it's no big deal in the end.

[Sefearoth]

Well is locks could only be dudes, then blizzard would probable make a female only class as a counter balance, it wouldn't be very productive to have male/female classes and have someone say "I was going to role a lock BUT they only alow dudes and I dont want play as a dude" I think in RL warlocks were a select few and they were respected for that but it was also their damnation, with only male people and already being rare and selective not to mention secret and illegle, they're few members we easily depleated through the decay of time. I say it sould be true for RL but not for WoW. But thats just me.

[Sefearoth]

*if

[beelzebuub]

Warlocks have nothing to do with Satan.
Satan is Christian belief. While a Warlock is considerd to be into Witchcraft and has nothing to do with pure evil in the reall world.

Nature belief was strongly rejected by Christian. In contradiction to the the forming of the cult. There are rumours pointing in the direction that Christians were a Drug Cult bases on esoteric science. The salvation Jezus used contained a strong base of Canabis. The bread he shared was dried Mushroom (aka the Holy Grail) . 300 years later the bible was written. In order to keep the people away from seeing the truth all nature worshippers where prosucuted by the protectors of the Holy Grail. The Knight Templars (aka the Inquisition).
Becourse of the prosucution they were to be seen as Anti-Christian.
And Anti-Christian is seen the same as Satanic.

This fate (Anti-Christ is Satanic) I believe is the worst thing that is happening on this planet ihmo.

Warlock inside the game have nothing to do with the reall world.
It is just a name tag. Like we see in all kind of movies with all kind of names.
Famous people and stories.

[Pyramidas]

Warlocks have nothing to do with Satan.

I disagree. And I personally like the idea of the Anti-Christ.

BM hunters are the most powerful class in WoW (currently).

Actually I was thinking Resto Shamans.

[Devicus]

BM hunters are if you take the view that pvp is the whole game. Which is why people want to nerf locks so hard we can't pve well either.

In PvE, there is a niche for every character that they fill better than anyone else. In raw DPS terms assuming equal gear and skill warlocks are perhaps outdone by rogues but no one else can do more than equal us. If we're talking purely in flavour (I suppose it gets to quasi RP stuff) and feel, while a healer is the heart of a good group and a tank it's backbone, *power* is DPS, and warlocks mixing foul corruption, hellfire, mastery over hostile demons, soulstone based utility, and a bunch of demons is without a doubt the most powerful of classes. Hunters come close but they do it through cunning not raw force of will.

As for the original subject, I think the "you're right but it doesn't matter really" approach is the one I'd agree with. End of the day the warlock class is a twisting and alteration of a myth to make the class more playable and workable.

The truth of pagan and christian and atheist reactionary origins will always be twisted and spun on by the other groups in my opinion and so end of the day... Blizz will have some innaccuracy in what they do and say according to one or more parties and maybe the truth as well. So instead they took an idea and ran with it and as a result created a very fun, playable and unlike most of it's peers a properly balanced class with fun lore too.