The Warlocks Den Forums
Don't show ads...

Go Back   The Warlocks Den Forums > General > General Gaming Discussion

General Gaming Discussion News, Information and Discussion about anything relating to games and gaming outside of World of Warcraft.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old August 27, 2004, 10:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
Akasha has disabled reputation





Penny Arcade takes razor-sharp jabs at video-game industry

Microsoft debuted its Xbox video-game console in 2001 to a steady stream of criticism about its controller, which some players said was too big and bulky for their hands.

The issue proved a jackpot of material for the two Seattle men who produce Penny Arcade, an online comic that ruthlessly pokes fun at the video-game industry. They sharpened their pencils and tore into the Xbox, drawing a picture of the controller's designer, who had giant-sized hands, asking, "What's the big deal?"

Another comic showed an Xbox player whose controller had secretly been replaced with an 800-pound grizzly bear. The player picks up the bear and asks his roommate, "Did you order one of those new smaller controllers?"

The comics are classic Penny Arcade, the twisted brainchild of Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Holed up in a spartan office in a small, faded building in Northgate, the two take aim at video-game land three times a week with a Web-based comic full of nonsensical plot twists, oddball characters and language so coarse it could be considered offensive. This is not a comic for children.

Online jabs at an industry aren't unusual in a world where blogs and e-mails sling mud at just about everything. What is surprising is Krahulik and Holkins are making money at it, enough to live on at least, with the majority of their revenue coming from online advertising.

This weekend, they are kicking up their income stream with a new venture: the Penny Arcade Exposition, a video-game convention Saturday and Sunday at the Meydenbauer Center in Bellevue. Krahulik and Holkins expect it to grow every year.

About 1,400 people have registered, a testament to Penny Arcade's rabid fan following. Even some companies the comic has shredded will be there, a testament to Penny Arcade's influence. The site gets about 175,000 viewers a day.

"Penny Arcade is very well-respected in the gaming industry," said Larry Hyrb, director of programming for Microsoft's Xbox Live service. "They poke a lot of fun at us, which is OK because we poke a lot of fun at us as well."

Walking down the halls at Xbox is like viewing a Penny Arcade gallery. Hyrb said many developers and testers read the comic religiously and tape printouts to their office doors.

"They're really an unbiased source, an unfiltered voice of the gamers," he said.

Objects of criticism

Xbox co-creator Kevin Bachus, whose new company has been the subject of Penny Arcade's harshest criticisms, said he is fine with the attention. He is president of Florida-based Infinium Labs, which plans to launch a new video-game console in November after nearly two years of hype that was short on details.

One Penny Arcade comic showed a diagram of Infinium's booth plan at E3, the annual video-game convention in Los Angeles. Each room at the booth was labeled with such words as "lies," "flimflam," "dishonesty," "duplicity" and "deceit."

To show no hard feelings, Infinium invited Krahulik and Holkins to its booth at the show and taped paper to the doors with the same words on them.

"It always stings a little bit to have somebody say something or draw something that's uncomplimentary," Bachus said. "At the same time it was tremendously flattering. Out of all the things they could have drawn that week, that they chose to draw us is in a way kind of cool."

Holkins, 28, and Krahulik, 26, met in journalism class in 1993 at Spokane's Mead High School. After graduation, they stumbled through a series of unfulfilling jobs — washing dishes, collecting balls at a golf course, fixing computers — and played video games all the while. Then a gaming Web site held a contest to find someone who would create cartoons about video games. The two kept submitting comics until the site wrote them to stop because the position was filled.

Undeterred, they made photocopies of their work and left it at comic-book shops, hoping for a big break.

"We would just hope that people would pick them up and take them," Krahulik said. "We just wanted to make comics."

They eventually found another online video-game site that agreed to run their comics every week, but the site's owner didn't like the salty language, they said. Rather than tone things down, they developed their own rudimentary Web site in 1999. The 12,000 or so fans they had developed followed.

Back then, it seemed anybody with a Web site was making big money, and Holkins and Krahulik wanted in on the action.

"There were a lot of people just making hobbyist-type Web sites that were being snapped up by larger organizations and being paid a lot of money to run them," Holkins said. Inspired, the two sold all the rights to Penny Arcade to a little-known dot-com called eFront, which intended to use the content to sell advertising.

"At the time, we were like, 'This is it,' " Holkins said.

"They sent us a check for like, $1,000 or something like that," Krahulik added. "We were like, 'Woo-hoo!' "

They quit their jobs, moved to Seattle and Krahulik got married. A few months later, eFront folded. They got the rights back, but dreams of becoming millionaires were dashed, and money was scarce.

They lived off fans' donations for two years, receiving about $6,000 to $8,000 a month, while the site's readership soared.

That was a period Krahulik and Holkins refer to as "B.K.," or "before Khoo." The Khoo is Robert Khoo, a former business analyst for a consulting firm who joined the company in 2003.

Unlike Penny Arcade's founders, Khoo knew a thing or two about business. Krahulik and Holkins charged advertisers $1,500 a month for 7.5 million page views, which Khoo estimated at 97 percent below market value.

"The way we calculated that was how much money we needed to live each month," Krahulik said. "That's how much we charged."

Khoo quit his job and offered to work at Penny Arcade for free for two months, promising he would make Krahulik and Holkins rich. He's still the only employee.

Revised business model

Since then, he has restructured the way the site sells advertising and lined up side projects for the creative team.

Now, the business model includes selling merchandise and sponsorships and offering creative services, such as making comics for strategy guides or for video-game publishers to use as advertising.

The Penny Arcade team isn't rich yet, but Krahulik and Holkins have enough money to live on. They are thinking about buying homes.

They dream of selling their business to a big company one day — one that won't go bankrupt — and never having to work again.

This weekend, they are spending about $35,000 on the Penny Arcade Exposition but expect to make a small profit on the event. And nearly 10 years after sketching their first comic, they will be the stars of their own party.

Source : The Seattle Times
Akasha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 28, 2004, 01:05 AM   #2 (permalink)
Member
Magnus utilizes these forums





Penny Arcade takes razor-sharp jabs at video-game industry

Heh That's kinda funny, my friend just told me the exact same thing just yesterday. Great site though, anyone here who hasn't checked it out before do it now! Unless you are offended by course language, then stay away from it, but if you're a game fan you will find most of their stuff hillarious.
Magnus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 29, 2004, 03:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
Member
boscolio utilizes these forums

Character Info
boscolio
60 Gnome Warlock
Azgalor US PvP
Guild: Dark Echo
Talent Spec: 43/7/11
Penny Arcade takes razor-sharp jabs at video-game industry

i love penny arcade. i remember stumbling on to them a long time ago and then just forgetting about them. then my friend showed me this comic he said was hilarious. low and behold, i re-discovered Penny Arcade. :D
boscolio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 29, 2004, 06:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
Akasha has disabled reputation





Penny Arcade takes razor-sharp jabs at video-game industry

I was a bit the same bosc, read it a couple of times, but it's only in the past year it has become a daily read. Now Ctrl+Alt+Del can be added to that list....
Akasha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 30, 2004, 01:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
Member
Trem utilizes these forums





Penny Arcade takes razor-sharp jabs at video-game industry

heh, I love penny-arcade. Being a programmer in the industry I read it religiously.

There are plenty of people here too that have their stuff posted on office walls and cubicles.

I also really enjoy PvP Online. A comic in loosely similar fashion to Penny-Arcade. The characters work for a gaming magazine called PvP, so obviously theres constant talk about gaming. In fact, the current story has the characters larping.
Trem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 30, 2004, 03:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
Member
boscolio utilizes these forums

Character Info
boscolio
60 Gnome Warlock
Azgalor US PvP
Guild: Dark Echo
Talent Spec: 43/7/11
Penny Arcade takes razor-sharp jabs at video-game industry

hah, i've been reading that one too trem. only recently remembered about it though.

"you nerds are at a ten. we need you at about a six."
boscolio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 30, 2004, 04:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
Member
Trem utilizes these forums





Penny Arcade takes razor-sharp jabs at video-game industry

lol yeah. that one was awesome.
Trem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 30, 2004, 05:27 PM   #8 (permalink)
Member
boscolio utilizes these forums

Character Info
boscolio
60 Gnome Warlock
Azgalor US PvP
Guild: Dark Echo
Talent Spec: 43/7/11
Penny Arcade takes razor-sharp jabs at video-game industry

of course, one can't forget about the excellent GUComics. but most people in the WoW/mmorpg community know of them since that is often their focus.
boscolio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old August 30, 2004, 08:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
Akasha has disabled reputation





Penny Arcade takes razor-sharp jabs at video-game industry

I'm not a big fan of GUComics... the boyfriend reads PvP Online and I am starting to get into it. I read Penny Arcade every time, and even went so far as to put their button on the front page LOL was my first ever "outside" advertisement.

I've checked out Extralife because there were a couple I found amusing, but not so much anymore - I like their City of Hero's, WoW etc related comics. Ctrl+Alt+Del is hillarious - one of the guys works in a computer store and I would just LOVE to be his boss... sheer amusement. I read that comic start to current on Sunday :D
Akasha is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
arcade, industry, jabs, penny, razorsharp, takes, videogame

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0
The Warlocks Den is a research and information site, of which the information has been gathered and submitted by members and the site owner. All information, articles and guides used on this site are copyright of The Warlocks Den or their respective owners and may not be copied or redistributed without written approval. The Warlocks Den is in no way affiliated with Blizzard or World of Warcraft