Why Selling Gold is Fueled? Why isn't Blizzard doing anything.

[ChityBeef]

-Blizzard has already acknowledged that the game cannot be played fairly by those who don't "live on it". Why else would people get the 200% xp bonus when not playing every day.

-I think Blizzard turns a blind eye to it because ultimately it fuels the game. Last I checked you still can't buy most Epics or any Legendary, so there's only so much buying gold can do. BUT many people don't have the hours it takes to buy your first mount; and let's face it the first time you try (before you start funding other toons with you high level ones) it is a pain.

-Some people just don't have the time to invest in the game that others do but still want to enjoy it and be competitive; this should be more a priority to fixing for Blizzard. Some people work 50 hours a week and can't compete many times with 15 year olds that spend hours a day playing Wearing all epic equipment.

-And lastly, the easiest fix is to put caps on what you can sell something for. I.E. scalping. IMO gold buying is fueled by the AH, period. If people weren't charging overpriced amounts for items people wouldn't need that quick 500g to buy from a farmer. Also they could make the in game venders sell more competitive equipment...no one barely even uses them after level 20 so why not make a line of competitve equipment that doesn't cost a ton of gold or that you spend 50 hours playing.

-Remember everyone pays the same monthly price to play as others so equitability is the key to fixing the framing situation. The reality is the gap between hardcore and casual players is fueling this problem and should be addressed.

-Blizzard simply can't do anything about it.

[eshadowone]

You pick the wrong game....

First, best gears are on boss kills.

AH is where people get their gold, they go and farm for primals, leather etc etc etc to earn gold for their needs. Try farming for stuff for days and sell it for a gold, lets see if your opinion changes.

....by the way, S1 are available from different quarter masters now and they are cheap but for a certain rep. IMO, they are good enough for a level 70 starters.

[Jead]

I have never bought gold in any game as I believe it makes the game too easy. I play about 1-2 hours 4-5 times a week. I am mostly a pvp guy. I can make over 200g a day on dailies without really trying. If I am hard up for cash, I can go grind something (primals) and sell them or I can take out a lowbie and grind him on leather or ore and make more than 80g an hour depending on the level of my noob. I was able to buy my epic mount the day I hit 60 and had money left over.

I just can't understand anyone having problems making money in this game anymore. When the game first came out, it was harder but now I think it's too easy. All you have to do is try, and not be so concerned with making all the money in one day. As for the farmers, they will always be here and the AH will always have some poeple that charge too much, but you don't have to buy anything in this game.

[Maltyrius]

Originally Posted by ChityBeef

-Blizzard has already acknowledged that the game cannot be played fairly by those who don't "live on it".

I don't recall seeing anything from Blizzard that stated or implied this - what is your source? In any case, the merits or, lack of them, in relation to gold buying has been debated to death, both hear and elsewhere. I can't imagine there is anything new on this topic at this point.

[Vaell]

It's more to do with your choices during the time you actually *do* play. As an experiment I decided that I'd try to level a priest without any financial help from my 70s. I took mining and skinning as professions and by level 16 the priest had 38g with a played time of around 15 hours. For some, 15 hours is a day or 2 playing, for others it would take a week or more to rack up 15 hours of play. The end result is the same. There is no reason why anyone should have no money, apart from spending freely on things you can barely afford, or really need.

If I get any begging tells from a low level character I just advise them to get gathering professions until they are at such a point where they don't have to beg. They usually appreciate someone taking the time to give them a few pointers and it cuts down the problem at source. Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and they'll eat for a lifetime etc.
Low level mats like copper ore and light leather are usually bought up by higher level characters with more money who can't be bothered to farm the lowbie areas for it when they can make more money in that time in outland. So really, if you don't play much and get mining / herbalism and skinning you are making money because you haven't as much time as someone who can get to 70 quicker. And besides, if you don't have as much time to play, why would you want all that gold? If you're not logged in, what does it matter what's happening in game?

Unless you want to be a twink there is absolutely no reason why you can't afford the things you need to level.

The real reason why people can't afford their first mount, or any other mount for that matter is that they haven't balanced the economic game of wow with the leveling side of it. That's probably an issue with being inexperienced on one hand or lazy (if you are familiar with the way things work) on the other.

I agree in essence though, in order to do things in wow, it takes time, and time is what we pay for and it's what keeps Blizzard's wheels turning.

Gold sellers are like drug dealers. You don't get rid of the drug problem by removing the dealers, because as long as there is a market (addicts) there will be someone to replace them. The key to stopping Gold Selling imo is an attitude adjustment on the part of the players who are potential gold buyers, into the mind set of patience, using the time they *do* have wisely and realising that feeling *inferior* due to not achieving quickly enough in a game is kinda silly.

[ChityBeef]

Originally Posted by Maltyrius

I don't recall seeing anything from Blizzard that stated or implied this - what is your source? In any case, the merits or, lack of them, in relation to gold buying has been debated to death, both hear and elsewhere. I can't imagine there is anything new on this topic at this point.

Like I stated Why else would people get the 200% xp bonus when not playing every day. Because so people play more than others.

Originally Posted by eshadowone

You pick the wrong game....

First, best gears are on boss kills.

AH is where people get their gold, they go and farm for primals, leather etc etc etc to earn gold for their needs. Try farming for stuff for days and sell it for a gold, lets see if your opinion changes.

....by the way, S1 are available from different quarter masters now and they are cheap but for a certain rep. IMO, they are good enough for a level 70 starters.

Last I checked you still can't buy most Epics or any Legendary, so there's only so much buying gold can do.

[Maltyrius]

On second thought, another round of philosophical debate on gold buying is not needed on this forum. The Warlock's Den does not support gold buying, so the discussion often strays into unwanted areas and gets into accusations etc.