56,000 BANNED - Go get'em Blizzard

[lolotov]

Give me new content between 1 and the latest level cap and grinding wouldn't be so bad. Grinding is horrible when I'm doing the same freaking quests and don't even read the logs to know what to do. I know some new content has been added but not nearly enough.

For reasons like the grind, botting through levels is tempting.

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by Nostiger

Well to be perfectly honest i think mass bans like this are stupid. I mean I am happy as all hell that a lot of dumb gold farmers are gone thats good. But sorry to burst people's bubble but a lot of people who bot do it to take a little of the grinding away and who cares. I personally don't bot but its tempting sometimes. Wow does a good job most of the time balancing lvlign and grinding but nowadays i can't stand grinding anymore. I'm sorry but its not fun to grind for 2 weeks to get enough primals to make 1 item. So i do not see a problem with what a lot of people use bots for. Gold farmers and honor farmers yes kill them for all i'm concerned. But if someone is using a bot to make the game a little more enjoyable for themselves and to tell the truth bots have prolly kept a good amount of older players still playing. I mean how many of you have 2-6 level 70's. I'm sorry but after my 3rd I was done with lvling another toon. Now fear of bannign is what made me not think about usign a bot to level another i just decided to be done lvling. But if it keeps some people in the game then thats good for blizzard. You can not group people in mass liek that and say its all good.

Nothing personal, but if a game isn't fun anymore play something else. People who bot are basically saying that their free time is more valuable than mine. I am very busy outside of WoW, yet I still do things the "right way", without botting.

[Nostiger]

Originally Posted by RomaGoth

Nothing personal, but if a game isn't fun anymore play something else. People who bot are basically saying that their free time is more valuable than mine. I am very busy outside of WoW, yet I still do things the "right way", without botting.

Its not so much their free time is more valuable its they are willing to take the risk. A lot of people if blizzard didn't make it illegal would bot the lower lvls. Plain and simple mainly cause it doesn't hurt anyone other than you get people who don't know how to play if its there 1st toon. But for those of us that could pick up any level 70 and in a couple of days know that class in an out its not a big deal. Though I do agree with loltov that if you gave me soem new 1-60 content i'd be more interested in lvlign another toon. Thats 1 thing blizzard seriously needs to consider. They really need to add a few zones to Azeroth thats for 1-60. Or give us another way to level like say xp in BG's.

[HCLars]

blizzard will allow botting before they give xp in battlegrounds...

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by HCLars

blizzard will allow botting before they give xp in battlegrounds...

Heh, probably true that. If we think Azeroth emptied when The Burning Crusade came out, imagine what it would be like if battlegrounds gave XP.....not to mention queue times would be horrid.

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Originally Posted by Nostiger

Its not so much their free time is more valuable its they are willing to take the risk. A lot of people if blizzard didn't make it illegal would bot the lower lvls. Plain and simple mainly cause it doesn't hurt anyone other than you get people who don't know how to play if its there 1st toon. But for those of us that could pick up any level 70 and in a couple of days know that class in an out its not a big deal. Though I do agree with loltov that if you gave me soem new 1-60 content i'd be more interested in lvlign another toon. Thats 1 thing blizzard seriously needs to consider. They really need to add a few zones to Azeroth thats for 1-60. Or give us another way to level like say xp in Battleground's.

I agree with you to some extent. Yes, people who bot are willing to take the risk. But I can take it one step further and say that some (if not most) of them also don't care what happens to their reputation and/or account. At least two of the people on the message board for this incident admitted as much. Why would I want to play with these types of people in the first place? I wouldn't. So good riddance to cheaters.

I definitely agree with you on the new zones for 1-60. Right now I have a 70 hunter, 58 warlock, and 54 rogue. Also started a pally (level 12) strictly for mining and enchanting, but I am forced to level him to 20 in order to get enchanting to 225 . I tried a few days ago to level him up a little in Westfall and just could not bear it. At all. Not sure what I will do, probably try another zone. So yes, I understand the horrid task of leveling in the same zones again. Adding another zone or three for new characters (even 1-40) would be nice and it would fill up Azeroth again to some extent. Just my measly two cents.

[dogwatch]

I don't feel bad for the people who lost their accounts they should have known better. Going by the nubmers it obviously very easy for Blizzard to detect this botting program.

However I do have some concern on the overall economy in the game. If mats sold in the auction house suddenly get very very rare and the prices of everything double thats going to suck.

I also don't agree that banning a bunch of accounts will result in increased revenues for blizzard and thus mean more content. I think what your seeing here is a lot of companies out of china and overseas profiting off of leveling characters for other people. Blizzard is obviously not getting a dime of that profit. Blizzard wants to stamp out all these small compies profiting off of their game.

[i_am_hyleon35]

Originally Posted by dogwatch

I think what your seeing here is a lot of companies out of china and overseas profiting off of leveling characters for other people. Blizzard is obviously not getting a dime of that profit. Blizzard wants to stamp out all these small compies profiting off of their game.

No, Blizzard wants to stamp them out so they buy another 56,000 WoW accounts. -_-

Same as everyone else, once I hit 70, I no longer felt a desire to level, I still don't. And now I get new goal, FSW, but thats what, 38 of three different primals and a butt load of Shadowcloth/Spellcloth CD? No thanks, I'll raid Kara with PvP gear thank you.
/2 wtb new 1-60 content, kthxbai

[Geedot]

I would say stamping out those profiting off of blizzards game would translate more into blizzard doing away with the competition. I mean really, do you think blizzard or the makers of guild wars or EQ are happy with the trivial amount of money they make from monthly fees and the initial selling of their game? Why be happy with the 117 million dollars a month in fees that blizzard makes when you can sell gold (and ban those competing with you) and make twice that? of coarse this is my opinion but seriously, making money leads to wanting more money which leads to wanting more money, Blizzard is no different then any other corporation in that they will do whatever they can to make the most they can. after all it is their game and their rules, who better to break them then those who made them. selling gold is a multi billion dollar a year market, I really don't think they would miss out on their share of it. Just my 2 cents.

[Vaell]

In response to notion of the casual player botting to level up with no commercial interest:

All things have a shelf life, wow is no exception. I think it *could* be unreasonable to expect someone to level through the same zones over and over again, just with a different set of abilities to do it. But then who really imposes that? it happens frequently but it's the player's choice, unless of course we're talking about video game addiction which is very real, but perhaps another topic for another time. Some people enjoy leveling and have a rack of mid level alts that they play for fun. If you don't like leveling, do you really like MMORPGs? The face melting 70 you get at the end is meant to be the reward for your efforts.

It was our choice to pick the game up in the first place, and though it can be very compulsive, it's our choice to level to 70 and perhaps level more characters to 70. No one is holding a gun to our heads.

Some people extol the virtue (notice how the word extol doesn't seem to exist unless virtue follows?) of re-rolling on the opposing faction for a change of scene. It's an option. I'll be the first to admit WoW does get boring sometimes, but that's the time to take a break and do something else til I feel differently.

I see good enough points here for new 1-60 content, it would certainly make leveling alts more varied and perhaps remove the temptation of what you might call 'non-career botters'. I'm not sure how that could be implemented without creating new lore, but that's not beyond blizz. The Burning Crusade brought the new starter zones which I think enthused enough of us to do it at least once more if we had already.

Fact is that wow is just, well wow. It wouldn't be wow if it wasn't known for rewarding the player with persistence and an ability to perform repetitive tasks at its root. It is the very nature of the game and if one dislikes that aspect, then really they are admitting they dislike the game. WoW as it is would cease to exist if there was no leveling up. It could be, um... like COD, CSS or UT but with spells and swords. Even COD4 has started some kind of leveling system so perhaps that's a moot point.

If you take the leveling away from WoW, what you're left with is a server full of Ebays with no connection or history with their character.

Botting or Ebay. Doesn't seem much of a difference to me. If someone wants to take the tedium and pain out of a game to the point where they will get, for want of a better term, a robot to play it for them then perhaps it's become more than a game... or no longer a game. Perhaps WoW has gone beyond it's shelf life for some. And it's ok to move on.

[mavric240]

Originally Posted by Bodhisage

The only bot I ever use is my little brother when I'm away for work

Now I know I'm not alone, but instead of my little brother I use my wife.