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Old November 18, 2009, 01:16 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Nexthanatos
80 Undead Warlock
Blackdragonflight US PvP
Guild: Vulgatarians
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Unhappy overall dps question

Hello All,
Ive been veraciousally devouring infomation on this site, ive already read socketing guide, destro rotation, destro dps spec setup, and some gear stuff. Im currentally pulling 1.3k to 1.4k DPS.

heres my rotation:(non boss)
CoE--Corruption--Immolate--(wil use lifetap before due to glyph)Conflag--Chaos--Incinerate--and spam incinerate until conflag procs.

boss is the same except CoE is replaced with CoD then after CoD drops i put on CoE

heres a link to my armoury:
The World of Warcraft Armory

ive been making sure to continue casting no stops.

however i feel as if my DPS is low for my current setup, i keep hearing "i should be pulling 2k on quest gear" im not sure how to boost this number up higher. Any suggestions are welcome
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Old November 18, 2009, 02:16 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Plägùé
80 Undead Warlock
Thaurrisan Oceania PvP
Guild: Dawn of Eternity
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: overall dps question

dont bother with corruption...or CoE. mobs simply dont last long enough and dont provide enough of a benefit to people in your party for it to be worth it.

Personally, in heroics, i do Immo -> conflag -> chaos -> inc, inc, inc, inc ->conflag -> inc -> immo -> chaos.

Of course thats for my haste rating :D
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Old November 18, 2009, 02:20 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Nexthanatos
80 Undead Warlock
Blackdragonflight US PvP
Guild: Vulgatarians
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: overall dps question

i see, thats a nice trick... how much will the fact that my hit rating is only 161 play in to my dps. i could change my chest piece for more hit rating but i would take a maojor loss in spell power and crit.
Any gear substitution ideas would be awsome
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Old November 18, 2009, 02:32 AM   #4 (permalink)

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iamultimo
80 Orc Warlock
Barthilas US PvP
Guild: Serendipity
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Talent Spec: 0/56/15
3.2 Re: overall dps question

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dont bother with corruption...or CoE. mobs simply dont last long enough and dont provide enough of a benefit to people in your party for it to be worth it.

Personally, in heroics, i do Immo -> conflag -> chaos -> inc, inc, inc, inc ->conflag -> inc -> immo -> chaos.

Of course thats for my haste rating :D
Mobs simply dont last long enough? You just did 11 spells....
Put up CoE, just dont use Curruption unless moving. Maybe don't put up CoE on trash, but put it up on bosses. Unless you have an unholy dk or Boomkin that is, then use CoD


WOW i just looked at your gear... I would be surprised if you pull 2k to be honest... Don't worry about it, just keep grinding heroics and change your spec to include 3/3 suppression. This will up your dps by heaps, but not to much considering you have less spell power then i did at 70 haha

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Old November 18, 2009, 03:23 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Nexthanatos
80 Undead Warlock
Blackdragonflight US PvP
Guild: Vulgatarians
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: overall dps question

currentally im grinding some herroics to get t8 stuff. However im not sure which t8 to get first. I was told to go 2 t8 and 2t9 when i can afford it. My gut feeling would be to get the chest or shoulders first
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Old November 18, 2009, 05:47 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Trifford
80 Gnome Warlock
feathermoon US RP Guild: Phules Errand

Re: overall dps question

get the T8 Chest and head peices with the badges from heroic's ... there are some nice bits and peices in ToC reg 200 item level to help you along as well ... enjoy the journey ... it's worth it when you finally get to 3k then 4 k and 5 k dps
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Old November 18, 2009, 09:38 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Vampirela
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Thrall US PvE
Guild: Evolution
Talent Spec: 0/40/31
Re: overall dps question

The World of Warcraft Armory
Here is my armory.. I am not sure what to get next. My DPS is between 4K and 6K ... but I feel it should be higher. Any suggestions are welcome. I am Destro with the same rotation all destro locks use.
Thank you,
Vamp
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Old November 18, 2009, 09:55 AM   #8 (permalink)

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Lunaped
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Shattered Hand US PvP
Guild: Apophasis
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: overall dps question

It looks like you're starting to get there on the gear, so don't worry so much about dps right now. As far as your rotation is concerned, always prioritize Conflags first, meaning you want to get off as many as possible in a fight. This also means your immo up time should be pretty high.

On another note, it's OK to cast Corruption because of the GCD that conflag has; that second that you're standing there you could be casting an instant spell. That's just my opinion though.

If you want to take advantage of the Life Tap glyph, then doesn't it make sense to life tap before you start your intro rotation?

Just things to think about!

AND -- btw -- should probably gem/enchant those purples ;) That will help tremendously.
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Old November 18, 2009, 09:57 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Dethkrik
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Turalyon US PvE
Guild: War Machine
Talent Spec: 55/0/16
3.2 Re: overall dps question

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Mobs simply dont last long enough? You just did 11 spells....
Put up CoE, just dont use Curruption unless moving. Maybe don't put up CoE on trash, but put it up on bosses. Unless you have an unholy dk or Boomkin that is, then use CoD
Unless he is running heroics with a group that is all geared similar to him, he probably won't get off those 11 cast on anything but bosses. Those throw CoE on, unless there is an unholy DK or boomkin, don't even mess with CoD in heroics, its rare these days that a boss makes it past 1 min for CoD to go off. On trash groups with 3 or more mobs just Rain of Fire.

As for your hit, it should be fine for running heroics. Before you start raids though you'll need to get to 17% (3% from Suppression, so you will need 368 hit (14%) to be capped unless your guild has a Shadow Priest or Boomkin that raids regularly, in which case you need only 289 hit (11%)).

As for your gear, it looks like you are running ToC5 so just keep that up. Try to farm the regular if you can for all the drops from therre and then run the heroic each day, once you have all the gear from ToC5 Heroic and Reg you should have a pretty nice set to start raiding in. Also, save up some Emblems of Conquest to trade down to Emblems of Heroism for the Sundial of the Exile. That Tears of the Vanquished trinket is all kinds of useless for 'locks.

Besides that just work on getting more comfortable with your rotation and try to keep improving both at raid awareness and execution and you should be off on the right foot. Good luck!
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Old November 18, 2009, 10:01 AM   #10 (permalink)

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Lunaped
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Shattered Hand US PvP
Guild: Apophasis
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: overall dps question

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Unless he is running heroics with a group that is all geared similar to him, he probably won't get off those 11 cast on anything but bosses. Those throw CoE on, unless there is an unholy DK or boomkin, don't even mess with CoD in heroics, its rare these days that a boss makes it past 1 min for CoD to go off. On trash groups with 3 or more mobs just Rain of Fire.

If you want to still throw a curse up and can't use CoE and CoD is not viable, Curse of Agony. Damage is still damage.
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