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July 10, 2009, 12:11 PM
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Casual gamers...
I've noticed something in wow, and I'd like to make a plea to the developers. I'm a causual gamer, i.e. I'll play for maybe 2 hours a night tops, and this being said I am a little bit stuck with game play. I've been able to run OS a couple of times but pugging into a raid is far too time consuming; setting up a raid is far too time comsuming; raiding is far too time consuming (reading this sentence is far too time consuming  ). Unfortunately for me I have other priorities which really do limit my time to playing during the week (see work, girlfriend, family, girlfriend's family, friends, etc...) Heroics are great because they are so easy to set up and are relatively quick runs. If I'm lucky I can get through 3 or 4 heroics without issue assuming I'm with a well gearerd group. I would love to be able to raid more but I can't devote 4 hours a night to try to pull off half of naxx 10. Why cant they do something like make a 5 man version of Naxx, (think of how fast it could be put together and run)? It would be a great way for people to learn all the fights. Instead of loot issues I say they just take the normal loot from heroics and let the 5 man bosses randomly drop it there too. It would be good if it were scaled a little harder than heroics but also very doable. They could do something similar with Ulduar for people who dont have the time to find the pugs or is in a guild not capable of doing that but still want to play the content. Again the gear isn't what I'm after; I'm just tired of running Violet Hold and UK and HoL and I hate Occulus... Obviously I haven't finished naxx or started Ulduar but assuming there aren't any fights with mechanics that would require 10 then I would love to see something like this implemented for us regular people who have a hobby that want to see new content. For me, it's not the difficulty of doing the raids, it's the time commitment. Ahh, I feel much better now. Last edited by Carnall; July 10, 2009 at 12:16 PM.. |
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July 10, 2009, 12:28 PM
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Synthetic 80 Human Warlock Greymane US PvE Guild: Red October Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: Casual gamers...
You will get your wish. The next major content patch will bring in the Crusaders' Coliseum which is 10/25, but there is also a new 5 man dungeon. The Coliseum has no trash, so its back to back boss fights, which cuts down on the time requirement. Also, while the heroic 5 mans are boring, they will be dropping updated emblems. Source: PTR Patch Notes Link Quote:
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July 10, 2009, 12:31 PM
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Re: Casual gamers...
i understand what you're getting at, i felt the same way, seeing as how i am a casual gamer as well, but when i hit 80 i went to the PVP side so this problem shot out the window. but anyway, what you have to consider is that if they make high end instances available to casual gamers then that gives the high end raiding guilds nothing to be proud of. they can do 25 man naxx because they have time to devote to it, so when someone sees that they have cleared ulduar or something you get the idea that they have devoted alot of time to it. something that a casual gamer can't do, thus portraying them as a hard-core gamer, not casual. so you have to look at it from both ends. its like Arena Gear. i dont have the time to devote to arena i am a casual pvp battleground player. so when people dont see me in arena gear they see me as more casual than hardcore. thus when you see someone in arena gear you see they have devoted alot of time and are a hard-core pvp'er
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July 10, 2009, 04:44 PM
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sassyevil 80 Undead Warlock Garona US PvE Guild: The Sesame Street Gang Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 02/14/55 |
Re: Casual gamers...
Why not make it where you could "rent a group". You could goto a NPC and rent another NPC like a healer or tank to fill a certain role. Granted there would be a lot to work out but the primise is sound. |
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July 10, 2009, 04:55 PM
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Re: Casual gamers...
there is a quest in grizzly hills that works like this. you have to fight this nasty giant bear, i got him down to 5% health with my felguard tanking, me DPS'ing and we "rented" a healer. there is a druid that you have to talk to and you tell him what you need, tank, heals, damage. and it worked pretty good. turned out i had to get one other guy in the group and we used the druid as a healer, and it worked out good. so that is a decent idea. worked in the quest chain.
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July 10, 2009, 05:35 PM
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Dyson 80 Human Warlock Scilla US PvP Guild: Eden Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Casual gamers...
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This game is meant to be social and therefore, much at end game (ie beyond questing) is built around grouping concept, for better or worse. At the least Blizzard has put in the LFG user interface to make looking for groups easier, plus meeting stones. In the old days it was much more of a pain, but while it can be a pain to get a raid started at odd times now, at the least this is what the game was designed for -- grouping with real people. |
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July 10, 2009, 06:41 PM
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sassyevil 80 Undead Warlock Garona US PvE Guild: The Sesame Street Gang Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 02/14/55 |
Re: Casual gamers...
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Last edited by mavric240; July 10, 2009 at 06:45 PM.. |
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July 11, 2009, 01:55 AM
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Re: Casual gamers...
You can do this with GW and it seems to work out well. You also can get your own heroes which are more customizable henchmen. |
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July 11, 2009, 05:53 AM
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Peligroso 80 Undead Warlock Stormreaver US PvP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Casual gamers...
Some of you seemed to stray off the point a bit. The OP wasn't asking for 5 man raids to drop 10 and 25 man equivalent gear or do it for achievements. He seemed to be wanting a way to put out a 5 man version tuned harder then heroics of the level but in such a way 5 people could atleast see and experience some of the bosses and visuals that so many casual gamers are denied (until the next expansion when they get in a group 10 lvls higher then the place is tuned for only to see what it looks like). I was in this situation before and actually seem to be in it of a sorts now. They could do it like mgt where the gear dropped there was way better then other heroics but not on par with raids other then some early kara drops. Basically a 5 man naxx where it pulls like a heroic but the bosses and such look just as they do in the raid.
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July 21, 2009, 02:25 PM
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elkagorasa 80 Orc Warlock malfurion US PvE Guild: Order of Thought Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/20/51 |
Re: Casual gamers...
Love the idea! 5-man raids! My friends are all playing high-end content on their mains. "blah blah blah, we just downed Yogg." but when it comes to playing Naxx to get me some gear, we have an impossible time getting enough people together. Hoping to soon, have enough regulars in-guild to do the 10-man content, but that may be weeks to months away. PUGing is my only hope to see all the content, and as a casual (4-6 hrs a week), that's not likely anytime soon. I've seen spider wing, military and some of construct, but only to Patchwerk. |
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