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Old July 25, 2009, 09:46 AM   #1 (permalink)

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x86 or x64???

Hi, i'm running the x86 version of win7 at the mo (and it's nice too) but feel a re-install is due. I also have the x64 bit version and was wondering if it would be better to use this.

PC specs as follows:

Athlon x64 4000+ (@2.7ghz) its the 64 bit single core
MSI k8n Diamond Plus
2bg OCZ ram
9600gt

I have always stuck with 32 bit os' in the past due to vista x64 being useless but wondered if anyone could say whether win 7 x64 would be worth the leap with my current hardware....

Any help on the matter would be useful, thx
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Old July 25, 2009, 11:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: x86 or x64???

I'm not sure that I'd consider x64 useless. It's actually quite useful, more so than x86 I dare say. As a gamer, I would think that x64 would be your cup of tea. I'm not a tech expert or anything, but I did read that the performance between 64bit and 32bit processing was impressive. Farcry, a First person Shooter, ran a side by side comparison of the game in 32 bit vs 64 bit. The 64 bit was so dramatically more detailed, it was able to use higher resolution textures on all the models and over all looked so much sharper. You won't notice that kind of difference in WoW, but there should definitely be a performance increase, so long as your system truly supports it. There are some processors out there that claim to be 64bit but aren't true 64 bit. I believe all of AMD's are. and now days all the Intel should be as well.

I've been running 64 bit Vista and now 64 bit Windows 7 and everything has been running pretty darn smooth. I love it.
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Old July 25, 2009, 12:34 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Re: x86 or x64???

Your running an old, single core Athlon processor with only 2gbs of RAM, I see no reason why you would even need to be running 64 bit. Pern is right in that 64bit can be a big performance boost, but only if the 32 bit OS is what is causing your bottleneck... In this case your system may even run slower in 64 bit as the single core processor may have a harder time handling the additional calculations required.

On a completely seperate note why are you even running the win7 beta if you had to come here to ask that type of question?
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Old July 25, 2009, 01:42 PM   #4 (permalink)

Re: x86 or x64???

i wouldn't advise it, 2gig of ram isn't enough for a 64 bit system never mind the single core processor
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Old July 25, 2009, 02:51 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Re: x86 or x64???

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Your running an old, single core Athlon processor with only 2gbs of RAM, I see no reason why you would even need to be running 64 bit. Pern is right in that 64bit can be a big performance boost, but only if the 32 bit OS is what is causing your bottleneck... In this case your system may even run slower in 64 bit as the single core processor may have a harder time handling the additional calculations required.

On a completely seperate note why are you even running the win7 beta if you had to come here to ask that type of question?
Firstly, in response to your last question, it's what forums are for

Secondly, it's a 64 bit cpu, therefore the calculations shouldn't be an issue. I was asking about functionality, and my last experience of a 64bit os was when vista was first released and very unreliable and had limited driver support. I'm looking for other peoples experiences of the combo, not flames thank you.

OPh, and thanks for the constuctive comments Pern, much appreciated
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Old July 25, 2009, 05:10 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Re: x86 or x64???

Ok, the last question came off, a little harsher than I intended. But, generally I expect a fairly high level of computer knowledge from anyone electing to run a beta OS.

As for your CPU being 64 bit, that's not really the point. Its still a single core and an older CPU at that.

Secondly the 64 bit release of Vista did not have reliability issues. It ran fine, many 32 bit apps and drivers did not work with it, but that is not the fault of the OS.

I still stand by my opinion that your system will most likely perform worse in a 64 bit environment. If you don't believe me take a look at some of the test Pern is referring to, all of the test rigs are well above and beyond what you are running.
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Old July 25, 2009, 06:21 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Re: x86 or x64???

Simple answer; No, your computer wont see a big leap in performance with a 64 bit OS.
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Old July 25, 2009, 06:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: x86 or x64???

First question: Are you indending to buy Win 7 when it comes out?

Second question: Are you willing to upgrade parts of your system? Odler systes are very difficult to upgrade and it is sometimes less expensive to move up to newer tech than to push good money into older tech.

Your motherboard will support FX and X2 processors, if you can find them still. With one of these, you will see improvement. You should not run a Win 64 bit OS with less than 4GB ram. With a 32 bis, you are limited to 3GBs, check you MB specs to see what kind of memory you need to have.

I have been running 64 bit Vista for 3 years now. ALMOST all drivers are available in 64 bit. Some will need to update for Win 7 and some are so basic they do not use the 64 bit op codes.

As for the whe should use the Beta question, generaly testers are very tech savy and are in the beta program to give technical feed back on the product. Someone in the beta program would not have asked this question. Just clearifying the remark.

Hope this helps.

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