Sick of repair bills?

[Whymfrost]

As i shelled out 20-some gold for a repair bill after kara, I thought to myself, "It was never this expensive before....".

I am running about half-blues and half-purples now, including the FSW set and 3 kara pieces, excluding the violet signet. I also carry a nearly full set of backup gear in case my gear goes to red and i need to get back into the fight quickly.

So I ran a little experiment to see how much more it costs to repair my "high-end" gearset as opposed to my "backup" gearset.

my backup gear set includes Shattrath Wraps, Jumpers, Hood of Oblivion, Robe of Oblivion, Spellfire Longsword, and the like. It's stuff you'd be wearing at lvls 67 through early 70.

I threw myself off the org bank until I died, once wearing my high-end, and once wearing my backup, repairing to full before each. The repair bill was as follows -
High-end : 1g 51s
back-up : 91s

the back-up set is (very roughly) 33% cheaper to repair.

stats of the gear

high-end
810+damage, ~7100 hp 8100 mp

back-up
559+damage, ~7000 hp 8700 mp

Sure, there's more +hit and about 1% more +crit on the high-end, but when farming, that isn't a huge thing.

I think I'm gonna grind out some quests or do some farming using my backup gear and see if I can really see the difference the ~250+damage makes. But the idea is, would it make sense to only use your high-end (and very expensive) gear when you really need it (Arena, pvp, raids)?

[Agnar]

What really doesnt make much sense to me is worrying about repair bills at 70. Much less carrying around backup gear or even keeping outdated(outmoded) gear. Ive got some resist gear but everything else goes straight to vendor, unless it has a special function ie the sight helmet from Shadowmoon just in case I want to help someone with the gorefiend quests. I think youll find that 250+ damage makes quite a difference in grinding. Wasting valuable bag space makes no sense to me, I use all mine and Ive got 20 and 18 slot bags. Jumping off the bank once as a test is probably not very scientific. I would bet that multiple jumps produce different results, but if you can afford to do multiple jumps then why are you worrying about repair bills in the first place. And as far as switching out red gear last time I was in Kara you could repair there so I really dont understand that problem either. I guess what I am trying to say is that repair bills are a necessary part of the game. "A cost of doing business" if you will. If you dont wanna get hit then play D&D.

[darkblayde]

on the contrary, if you can save money by using a slightly less efficient gear set, i would call that a good thing, especially to people saving up for epic flyer/battlecast/rare recipes/etc. sure, you can make a lot of gold at 70, but that doesn't mean you should throw it down the tubes, either.

on another note, i'm not sure you could qualify a set with over 200 less damage as backup...perhaps you might try getting rid of some of the worst parts of your backup set, and swapping in your raiding gear. this way, you will still lower repair bills, and you won't have to sacrifice as much damage.

[Duckie]

Well if you were raiding with me, I would kick you from the raid if I found out you are doing that....

I guess you are not using any pots too? Probably to expensive too...

On a average raiding night were are new bosses involved I pay around 50g a night on repairs and about 50g on powerups and elixers. Do you honestly think that it's acceptable towards the people you play with to save 6g a night but perform 25% less?

If you want gold, go grind or use your professions

Imo if you don't wanna pay the price of progressing and raiding, then don't join a raid....

[neej]

Well you have the problem when farming when you draintank with you own body, I as a Demonology warlock never have any problems with repairs during farming unless I suck at aggro management (TV or phone situation). You don't get red if you don't get hit.

I suggest you farm with your Voidwalker. Then again, you farming speed will be 20-40% less and in that time you SHOULD have farmed the money you would need to repair anyway.

Years ago, I did some naked (Cloak/Necklace/Rings/Trinkets were okay) PvP raiding because I enjoy to instant res when we zerg the whole thing. It's cheap after all . Put your stuff in the bank BTW.

@Duckie: No need to be offensive, some people play on a different pace. I for example joined a casual kara raid group only if I am not forced to be potted all the time because I don't like to farm 4-5 Hours each weeks for Mana Oils, Buff Food, Battle Elixirs, Guardian Elixirs Potions. I have gear well above what is needed and rank 1/2 with damage... I don't see the point to get the 10-15% more for that gold. I use +damage on several encounters but we never wiped because of lack of damage anyway. So why pot yourself in this case?

[Duckie]

I didn't even mean to be offensive to be honest, I just state my opinion about something that is not logical in my eyes....

I say why complain about repairs because of epics, while you raid a instance to get epics... I honestly miss the point...

Next to that he suggests to wear lesser gear, what means you as a raid will progress slower and chances on wipes due to less damage seems obvious imo, what means more repairs in the first place. I can't imaging any (even the most casual) raid accepting that.

The whole point of doing a raid is trying to gear up, but if you don't wear them what is the point in getting them?

Even on a differenct pace I think people might react offendened, that has nothing to do with me or our progress. I think a lot of people will agree with me. But who knows I'm completly wrong, but that is what this topic is about to begin with...

I just don't think what is stated in the start topic is fair to the other people who are joining the raid.

And just of your information, most of the time I don't even use any pots, only on bosses when it's needed or try runs on new encounters

edit : did I misread the starttopic or did you change it? because reading it again seems like your intention is only too use if farming, while my impression was you were doing this raiding.
Do you die that much while farming that you actually need a second gear for it ?

[D3adKl0wn]

there are mods that remove your gear the instant before you die.. perhapos those might save you a few bucks?

also, org bank is high enough to kill yourself by jumping off of it?

[Duckie]

that doesn't work anymore, only weapons

And ogrimarbank is not high enough to even get fall damage ;)

[Whymfrost]

perhaps I was not clear..

I would be using my backup gear during farming, questing, etc, when i'm normally by myself and where the ultimate stats are not required (honestly, do you really need 1000 +damage to kill earth elementals?). Of course I have my epics on while raiding, and I use all the usual pots, food and buffs.

Also, I hellfired myself to ~300 health then jumped off. some bystanders enjoyed the show.

And no, I don't think I excessively die while farming. But I do find that crap happens while I quest, I'll get overzealous, pull too much, or some other thing happens and I'll die, maybe once an hour. As shown in my original post, that's 60+silver each time that happens, along with the normal wear-and-tear.