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Old April 28, 2008, 07:04 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Valdamion
70 Human Warlock
Nathrezim US PvP
Guild: Malediction
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Quag's Eye vs Xi'ris Gift (0/21/40 Shadow)

I'm curious to know which would do more DPS with my gear? The Quag's Eye with spell damage and occasional spell haste? Or the Xi'ris Gift with 1%+ spell critical and a use effect of 150 spell damage for approx 8 seconds? Any advice would be appreciated!
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Old April 28, 2008, 07:19 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Phearcat
70 Human Warlock
Crushridge US PvP
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Re: Quag's Eye vs Xi'ris Gift (0/21/40 Shadow)

How tough is it to farm this Quag's Eye? I ask because I just recently picked up Blade of Wizardy which essenstially has the same sort of haste buff to it. The Combination of the two would be awesome together. Not sure that the stats are but it seems to fire off about 20% of time which is huge.
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Old April 28, 2008, 07:20 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Lavath
85 Blood Elf Warlock
Shadow Council US RP Talent Tree: Destruction
Re: Quag's Eye vs Xi'ris Gift (0/21/40 Shadow)

I'm no gear expert but I'd kinda think that if you had a good amount of spell haste, it would benefit you more often than crit since it would be more sustained than the spikey nature of crit. Having said that.. if you had a lower amount of haste.. it might get lost in the noise and not really do much for you where crit may give you more even though it's "spikey".

Just my thoughts but I'm sure a real gear expert will be around to correct me soon enough
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Old April 28, 2008, 07:23 PM   #4 (permalink)

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70 Human Warlock
Nathrezim US PvP
Guild: Malediction
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Re: Quag's Eye vs Xi'ris Gift (0/21/40 Shadow)

Only thing is I havn't noticed the proc as much as I crit, so...
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Old April 28, 2008, 07:55 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Themorrigan
70 Human Warlock
Kil'Jaeden US PvP
Guild: The Collective
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Re: Quag's Eye vs Xi'ris Gift (0/21/40 Shadow)

hey cool this is still in my history from the last time someone asked a "what trinket does more dps" question

SimulationCraft/Trinkets/Warlock - Shadowpriest.com Wiki
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Old April 28, 2008, 09:47 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Debuff
80 Orc Warlock
Sargeras US PvP
Guild: Fenrir
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Re: Quag's Eye vs Xi'ris Gift (0/21/40 Shadow)

Thanks for linking that doog. it's worth noting though, that the quag's eye actually scales pretty well since it's a haste proc. So if you have exceptional gear it will be valued much higher than you see on that list.
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Old April 29, 2008, 04:43 AM   #7 (permalink)

Re: Quag's Eye vs Xi'ris Gift (0/21/40 Shadow)

A bit different for me as I'm affliction but I don't really notice the effect of Quag's Eye that much - but then I don't equip it for raiding as I need my Bloodgem. For my destro plans I certainly plan to get rid of the Eye though, to replace with Xiri's Gift.
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Old April 29, 2008, 05:17 AM   #8 (permalink)

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Yonks
85 Undead Warlock
Spirestone US PvP
Guild: tys
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Re: Quag's Eye vs Xi'ris Gift (0/21/40 Shadow)

I'm pretty sure that Quag's Eye is better than Xiri's Gift for ANY warlock spec.
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Old April 29, 2008, 06:22 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Zandoros
70 Blood Elf Warlock
Outland Euro PvP
Guild: Elysium
Re: Quag's Eye vs Xi'ris Gift (0/21/40 Shadow)

Yeah eye>gift for any spec.

Haste is also the king stat for Destro when your raid buffed SDMG is > 1400-1450 (way more dps point for point than crit). Remember this includes Flasks/pots/food/Fel armour and Wrath of air if you know you are getting a shammy, so not hard at all really.
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Old April 29, 2008, 07:48 AM   #10 (permalink)

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Maccers
70 Human Warlock
Kazzak Euro PvP
Guild: SlashCry
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Re: Quag's Eye vs Xi'ris Gift (0/21/40 Shadow)

Im in end game gear and on eredar twins in sunwell atm. Ive done extensive Dr Boom tests and researched thoroughly on numerous in game trinkets for destro locks.

I can safely say that illidan trinket is hands down winner for dps
Next is hex shrunken head trinket

Coming in 3rd place is one of 2 trinkets
Either -

1) Darkmoon card crusade
2) Quagmirrans eye

In a flat out nuke spam bolt boss (brutalis, teron, winterchill), darkmoon is better when and only when you can keep the +damage buff up 100%

In a fight where its a mixture of spamming bolts and then moving quag's eye is 3rd best trinket in game for raid encounter.

In Bg's, 5 mans and grinding, other trinkets are better (eg icon of silver crescent). If you look my armoury, you see im normally using quags eye (i dont have illidan trink yet). And im pulling of 2100-2400 dps numbers.

Heres a post on my guilds website i made about quags eye with some numbers

http://slashcry.freeforums.org/trink...test-t853.html
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