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Old July 22, 2008, 12:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Demonlogy Guide? Gear Issues.

I've skimmed over alot of threads over the last few days. Badge of Justice Pick Order Guide ** Updated May 11th ** - The Warlocks Den Forums Gearing Your Warlock (Final Draft) - The Warlocks Den Forums Gearing Your Warlock (2.4 Edition) - The Warlocks Den Forums and Raiding With Felguard (SSC, TK, Hyjal, BT) - The Warlocks Den Forums The problem is, most of these guides are for Destro or Affliction and the Demonology ones are out of date. My question/plea for help is, where is an up-to-date guide for gearing a felguard raiding warlock? What is our gear priority list in this new age of badges/instances? Any help is appreciated.
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Old July 22, 2008, 01:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Demonlogy Guide? Gear Issues.

The gear is aimed towards destruction because it's the best spec for DPS and raiding. That's our role in raids is to DPS, so it just that simple that you go destruc. So there's no guide for demo raid gear because it's not worth it. Respec.

I leveled as demo and geared up as demo pretty much until I got to destruction level stats then respecced and never looked back.
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Old July 22, 2008, 01:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Demonlogy Guide? Gear Issues.

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The gear is aimed towards destruction because it's the best spec for DPS and raiding. That's our role in raids is to DPS, so it just that simple that you go destruc. So there's no guide for demo raid gear because it's not worth it. Respec.

I leveled as demo and geared up as demo pretty much until I got to destruction level stats then respecced and never looked back.
this is not true, as Raiding With Felguard (SSC, TK, Hyjal, BT) - The Warlocks Den Forums attests to.

As to your original question, I don't have an ideal answer, but I think the general consensus is that demo locks are in between affliction and destro as to the relative importance of hit/crit/damage/haste. So crit and haste are more important to you than it would be to an aff lock, but not as important as it is to a destro lock. Assuming you have insta corruption and bane (say a build like this, though you might want to fiddle around with demonic resilience and/or suppression: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft) I think your rotation would be something like curse --> corr --> immo --> SB spam -->repeat, so you dont have as many dots going as affliction, but more than destro, and more SB spam than affliction, but not as much as destro. Therefore youre going to want stats that walk the line between the two, though I have no idea how the theorycrafting works out as to exactly how important each stat is.
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Old July 22, 2008, 01:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Demonlogy Guide? Gear Issues.

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The gear is aimed towards destruction because it's the best spec for DPS and raiding. That's our role in raids is to DPS, so it just that simple that you go destruc. So there's no guide for demo raid gear because it's not worth it. Respec.

I leveled as demo and geared up as demo pretty much until I got to destruction level stats then respecced and never looked back.
I'm aware that destruction is going to be the end all dps spec. I'm just curious if there are any serious demonologists left and what they recommend.
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Old July 22, 2008, 01:55 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Demonlogy Guide? Gear Issues.

Pretty much as per destruction with the following caveats:

1) Get 2 x T5 for the Bonus
2) Get VST from Solarian for pet resistances.

I never bothered doing anything other than the above when in T5 content and it was absolutely fine - if you really want synergy with your pet check out the pet scaling threads and you can stack stats accordingly but I really didn't ever feel the need.
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Old July 22, 2008, 02:02 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Demonlogy Guide? Gear Issues.

A good thing to note is that the tier sets have more stamina on them then some of the other gear of the same ilvl. More stam = more felguard hp= more bonus damage for you=more attack power for felguard. While gearing directly for stam is bad, getting the large amounts found on our tier sets does add to felguard survivability, in addition to VST and 2pt5.
Other than that, go for the normal best in slot gear for whatever level of raiding your in.
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Old July 22, 2008, 06:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Demonlogy Guide? Gear Issues.

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Pretty much as per destruction with the following caveats:

1) Get 2 x T5 for the Bonus
2) Get VST from Solarian for pet resistances.

I never bothered doing anything other than the above when in T5 content and it was absolutely fine - if you really want synergy with your pet check out the pet scaling threads and you can stack stats accordingly but I really didn't ever feel the need.
Sadly I have no access to raiding T5.... Any advice for gearing? Maybe some Lootrank.com stats?
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A good thing to note is that the tier sets have more stamina on them then some of the other gear of the same ilvl. More stam = more felguard hp= more bonus damage for you=more attack power for felguard. While gearing directly for stam is bad, getting the large amounts found on our tier sets does add to felguard survivability, in addition to VST and 2pt5.
Other than that, go for the normal best in slot gear for whatever level of raiding your in.
As I posted up above, I need a little more consise of a list, I'm currently using the "Gearing your Warlock Guide 2.4" and not sure that's the best way I should be going with gear.
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Old July 22, 2008, 06:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Demonlogy Guide? Gear Issues.

To be honest, there's nothing in that thread you can't use - Indeed, there's nothing there not suitable....just perhaps a couple of pieces with lower stats that you might otherwise desire (Spellstrike pants are notably low on sta/int for example - as are the Frozen Shadoweave items) Just get the best raid/crafted/Honour gear you can acquire.....looking at your current gear you're not going to get a lot better although you could optimise your enchants (248 hit rating is WAY over whats required ).

Get +40 damage on your Mindblade, +15 damage on Bracers (or not, if you plan on replacing them with the PvP equivalent which are clearly better) Armour Kit for your pants, Boars Speed for Boots, +6 stats for chest, +20 damage on gloves...and don't gem for crit - gem for +damage or +haste/damage.
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Old July 22, 2008, 08:18 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Demonlogy Guide? Gear Issues.

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Armour Kit for your pants

I agree with everything you said except for this. Use spellthread for pants. Preferably Runic, but you can use the mystic if cost is an issue.

Also the spellstrike set is still a very good choice for a demo lock. Yes, you give up some stam which is important. But overall, crit and damage are generally more important just like destro. If your looking for non T5 PVE gear options for a demo lock feel free to look at my armory. I apologize in advance if I am in my PVP set, I've been working on my S2 set.

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Old July 24, 2008, 03:56 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Demonlogy Guide? Gear Issues.

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Pretty much as per destruction with the following caveats:

1) Get 2 x T5 for the Bonus
2) Get VST from Solarian for pet resistances.

I never bothered doing anything other than the above when in T5 content and it was absolutely fine - if you really want synergy with your pet check out the pet scaling threads and you can stack stats accordingly but I really didn't ever feel the need.
2xT5 for the bonus + you could get Implements of Unspoken Names (Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj Set), it should be good bonus for your little demon ;)

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