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February 11, 2009, 02:12 PM
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Frustrated: Druids rolling on cloth
I'm sure most warlocks (as well as mages and priests) have, at some time, seen a druid roll on a piece of cloth gear that they wanted. Well it happened to me the other night in EoE. The robe dropped, and being one of two dps clothies (2 locks) I figured I had a 50/50 chance of getting it. The other lock rolled first . . . 2! Yay. Then I roll . . . 2!?! Are you kidding me? Okay, roll again, right? Not so fast. The resto druid decides that the robe, which is cloth and also had hit on it, would be an upgrade, so he rolls and of course beats out a 2. The raid leader hesitates for a moment, only because the druid is resto. After the druid explains that his main spec is moonkin he gets the gear. Now since this was a pug I can't complain too much about the master looter giving out the gear the way he did. My problem is with the frequency I see druids rolling for cloth gear. There is plenty of leather caster gear out there that is designated for druids. My solution . . . don't let druids equip cloth anymore. If mages, priests and locks are locked into cloth only, then why can't the other classes be locked into one form of armor too? Pallies generally only take mail when no one else want it. Shamans usually only take cloth or leather when no one else wants it. Druids, however, cry that their leather never drops, so they get equal rolls on cloth all the time. It just doesn't seem right to me. Incidentally, I also have a hunter and would never roll on a piece of leather over a druid or rogue, regardless of how crappy my gear might be. |
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February 11, 2009, 02:40 PM
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Re: Frustrated: Druids rolling on cloth
The other day, during a pug of naxx 10, Embrace of the Spider dropped and being the only warlock (no mages or priests either), I thought I had a good chance on it. So I roll, beat out the druid casters, but then get beaten by a healadin. They have only one casting spec...thats all we do...if they respec its goin to sit in the bank, it ain't right! |
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February 11, 2009, 03:14 PM
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Status: Darkbinder
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Aily 80 Human Warlock Doomhammer US PvE Guild: Arisen Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Frustrated: Druids rolling on cloth
they shoulda left warlocks wearing leather at 40 |
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February 11, 2009, 03:19 PM
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Panaceia 80 Blood Elf Priest Cho'gall US PvP Guild: Inebriated Raiding Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 14/57/0 |
Re: Frustrated: Druids rolling on cloth
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 The druid thing is a pain in pugs sure. Guilds usually have a set policy. In your situation I am not sure how that robe ranks for druids but I know many cloth items are far better than any leather. It shouldn't have been given to him for a spec he wasn't there performing though. That is a pretty basic "law o' pugs."
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February 11, 2009, 03:29 PM
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Status: Darkbinder
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Aily 80 Human Warlock Doomhammer US PvE Guild: Arisen Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Frustrated: Druids rolling on cloth
It's a blurry line about rolling for your main spec while going to a raid as an offspec. |
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February 11, 2009, 03:30 PM
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Omakodan 80 Undead Warlock Onyxia US PvP Guild: SpecOps Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/17/54 |
Re: Frustrated: Druids rolling on cloth
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I bet you don't turn down their heals though, do you? Seriously, your QQ should be directed towards Blizzard and the poor state of Resto quality leather items. Fact is, wearing cloth is a major downgrade to the druids armor rating and they wouldn't even consider it if decent +SP, +Int and +Spi existed on a comparable leather item. Most Druids I know of operate in at least two of the three roles, so yes it is reasonable for the dps druid to want to roll on cloth to upgrade it's resto suit. And yes, I'm also a Druid. Omako |
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February 11, 2009, 03:34 PM
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Re: Frustrated: Druids rolling on cloth
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It's possible when this Tree got the raidinvite, he said 'Okay, I'll heal for you guys, but only if I can roll on Boomkin gear.' My best friend, who hates healing but at the same time has a fairly serious pug healer reputation on our server, often makes this stipulation, and almost always gets it agreed to. |
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February 11, 2009, 03:54 PM
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Barkle 80 Undead Warlock Rexxar US PvE Guild: Corpus Vile Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/41/30 |
Re: Frustrated: Druids rolling on cloth
I heal as a resto druid in raids. There is far more cloth gear that has optimal stats than there is leather gear. I currently wear about 50/50 cloth/leather. Personally, in raids I run, if an item has hit on it, it is DPS. IF it has MP5 on it, it is healy. I always ask people to roll that way. If DPS passes on an item with hit, then I allow healers to roll on it, and same with MP5 stuff. The trinket .. that doesn't have DPS or heal specific stats, so I'm comfortable with any caster rolling on it. The bottom line .. make sure your loot rules are clear. If people don't understand the rules going in, or you don't stick to them, is when you will have some bad mojo. |
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February 11, 2009, 04:04 PM
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Tianshaan 80 Human Warlock Terokkar US PvE Guild: Vae Victus Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
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February 11, 2009, 04:10 PM
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Kiralyn 80 Human Warlock Mal'Ganis US PvP Guild: Self Titled Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0.13.58 |
Re: Frustrated: Druids rolling on cloth
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In general though, Blizzard keeps screwing the pooch on itemization. My guild is currently trying to figure out what to do with our TG warrior who's best in slot isn't always plate. The rogues are up in arms about him having an even shot at leather and about to revolt, but at the same time this guy is my most consistent raider for the past 18 months or so. I really hate that guilds get put into situations where we have to make decisions about things like this, but there also isn't really anything we can do about it. @Tia, that was sarcasm, and YOU clearly don't understand what constitues healing vs. dps trinkets. +sp with a proc haste effect is a generic caster trinket. It isn't geared to either dps or healing. Would that be better for a warlock vs. a holy paladin? Arguable yes, but not by a huge amount. But what about resto shaman? They thrive on haste. Are you going to say they can't take it even though haste is one of their best stats?
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