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Old May 04, 2009, 06:14 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Bansh
80 Human Warlock
Aggramar Euro PvE
Guild: Unholy Fighters
Talent Spec: 0/52/19
3.1 No MP5 while casting

Hi everybody at the Warlocks Den

I have a question about MP5. Currently I have almost 2k spellpower on my warlock with fel armor up.

Still im lacking some stats: for example hit and mp5. My current mp5 while casting is 0. Yes: 0. OOC is 184.

I only dinged 80 like a few days ago so my gear needs improvement. What gear can I improve my MP5?

Oh, and where is all the +hit gear hidden? :S
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Old May 04, 2009, 06:18 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Arturous
80 Undead Warlock
Barthilas Oceania PvP
Guild: Casual Effect

Re: No MP5 while casting

Best way to improve your mp5 as a warlock is with life tap, there is also a very nice trinket from heroic violet hold for hit rating.
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Old May 04, 2009, 06:31 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Bansh
80 Human Warlock
Aggramar Euro PvE
Guild: Unholy Fighters
Talent Spec: 0/52/19
3.1 Re: No MP5 while casting

Isnt it kinda tricky using life tap in a fight, since i only have 15k health (18k buffed)? Add a little aoe damage and i dont have alot of health to play with.

I dont want the healers to get annoyed because the have to put renew on me :P
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Old May 04, 2009, 06:42 AM   #4 (permalink)

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lilsteele
80 Human Warlock
Terenas Euro PvE

3.1 Re: No MP5 while casting

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Isnt it kinda tricky using life tap in a fight, since i only have 15k health (18k buffed)? Add a little aoe damage and i dont have alot of health to play with.

I dont want the healers to get annoyed because the have to put renew on me :P
You're a warlock, you have to life tap. Just don't do it if there's a lot of AoE around, wait a few seconds. Basically you should learn to keep your mana pool up to prevent you from coming into a situation where you are oom but can't life tap since there's too much damage around.

Never ever equip mp5.

a lot of level 80 gear, with a lot of hit rating:
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Old May 04, 2009, 06:58 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Bansh
80 Human Warlock
Aggramar Euro PvE
Guild: Unholy Fighters
Talent Spec: 0/52/19
3.1 Re: No MP5 while casting

Thank you both for the pointers.

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prevent you from coming into a situation where you are oom but can't life tap since there's too much damage around
I had that a few times now, single target i can last up to 3 minutes without using Life Tap, so i guess its just about timing. And maybe doing so even in those 3 minutes when my health allows it.
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Old May 04, 2009, 07:11 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Devicus
80 Gnome Warlock
thunderhorn Euro PvE
Guild: Rise
Profile: Blizzard Armory

Re: No MP5 while casting

Just lifetap sparingly and when at or near full health and/or you know the healer isn't really strained. Do it early, rather than waiting till you're nearly OOM, so that if you can't lifetap then you won't have to stop casting but can continue a little. Also if you do single lifetaps on low aoe damage fights, your fel armour will actually feed you back most of the health before the next tap.

Lastly, affliction warlocks just lifetap after every other haunt or thereabouts (look at mana bar, if it's dropped a lot, lifetap after haunt, if it's full, continue, if it's near the end of the fight, use your judgement).

However healers should heal you. A renew will cover 2 or 3 lifetaps if you do it that way, or a small heal will also do it. If a boss does light aoe, your lifetaps might just eat the overheal instead of causing more strain. Lifetap between pulls, until raiding, on a lot of boss fights you won't even need to lifetap more than once or twice. If your healer is still struggling, if they HoT you, and you're healer but the HoT has a tick or two left, lifetap. Just play it smart.
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Old May 04, 2009, 07:18 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Sasztam
80 Human Warlock
Dentarg US PvP
Guild: Pure Energy
Talent Spec: 3/13/55
Re: No MP5 while casting

Another important thing to remember is that you should never, ever lifetap twice in a row. Then you will be dropping your health to dangerous levels, and honestly, you should never need to.
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Old May 04, 2009, 07:19 AM   #8 (permalink)

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SoldierBeast
80 Human Warlock
Malfurion Euro PvE
Guild: Four Elements
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 53/0/18
3.1 Re: No MP5 while casting

that sounds strange, im a 80 affli warlock with a T7,5 level of gear, 17500 mana
solo at a puppet with my standard rotation i am oom in 59 seconds
of coarse i got quite a bit of haste and you might have some mp5 from group buffs but 3 minutes is a bit odd, you should run out faster if you are playing to the full potential

with demo oder destro specs you run out of mana even faster, to maintain a healthy mana pool you shoud lifetap every 20 seconds or so
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Old May 04, 2009, 10:30 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Majestrix
80 Human Warlock
Kargath US PvE
Guild: Keepers of the Old Ways
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 1/55/15
3.1 Re: No MP5 while casting

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Another important thing to remember is that you should never, ever lifetap twice in a row. Then you will be dropping your health to dangerous levels, and honestly, you should never need to.

Not true, if you have a HoT on you it is sometimes best to lifetap 2x in a row to keep it from being wasted. This also depends on the fight. But if I am moving or not casting for some other reason and a HoT comes up you can beat I will lifetap 2x maybe even 3x if needed.

Never say never, let the situation dictate what you should and shouldn't do.
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Old May 04, 2009, 10:41 AM   #10 (permalink)

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Vazhkatsi
70 Gnome Warlock
Dalaran US PvE
Guild: Phoenix
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/21/40
3.1 Re: No MP5 while casting

27k health raid buffed with 22k mana, lifetapping twice isn't really a problem.

also, please don't start picking up pieces with mp5 on them, i want to do grievous bodily harm when i see a warlock win an Mp5 piece over a healer, it may be purple, but that doesn't mean its automatically an upgrade for you. the only mp5 ii have is the socket bonus on my helm
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