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Old May 13, 2009, 01:00 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Sidapa
80 Orc Warlock
Bonechewer US PvP
Guild: Tribo Habagat
Profile: WoW Rankings
Talent Spec: 0/40/31
3.1 stats for destruction locks to improve DPS

hi again everyone!

there's a post on the "warlock trinkets" thread that got my attention, since it seemed exactly what I was looking for, though a couple commented that it may be outdated for 3.1. I was wondering if we have something similar (updated) that we can rely on, so we can better weigh the contribution of gears we get to our overall DPS.

I'm particularly interested in the DPS contribution of the following stats to a destruction lock: hit, spellpower, crit strike rating, haste, and spirit.

Currently, I'm using a very simple process of just equating every point from those stats to 1 except for spirit, which I translate to its 0.39 contribution to spellpower (as I have the imp fel/demon armor talent from demo tree).

Thanks!
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Old May 13, 2009, 01:26 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Maddblazed
80 Undead Warlock
Tichondrius US PvP
Guild: Grim Vengeance
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 3/13/55
Re: stats for destruction locks to improve DPS

you may want to try using Bakka's (formerly Leulier's) Spreadsheet.
I have found it to be very useful.
Warlock DPS Spreadsheet -
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Old May 13, 2009, 01:56 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Schizm
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Aman'Thul Oceania PvE
Guild: Novitas
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.1 Re: stats for destruction locks to improve DPS

I have a problem with getting this spreadsheet to work properly. When I open it I get an error message refering to a Circular Reference problem. I click on Cancel so I can keep working with it but after working on it for a short while it crashes and wipes out Excel for me.

Anyone else having this problem?
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Old May 13, 2009, 01:58 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Maddblazed
80 Undead Warlock
Tichondrius US PvP
Guild: Grim Vengeance
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 3/13/55
Re: stats for destruction locks to improve DPS

Bakka has a thread over at EJ.
You should be able to find your fix there.
Leulier's Warlock DPS Spreadsheet - Elitist Jerks
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Old May 13, 2009, 02:44 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Sidapa
80 Orc Warlock
Bonechewer US PvP
Guild: Tribo Habagat
Profile: WoW Rankings
Talent Spec: 0/40/31
Re: stats for destruction locks to improve DPS

thanks much madd. thing is though, i'm still trying to get the hang of how it works, and quite frankly, i'm still a bit lost and confused on what numbers i should be looking at.:(

isn't there something simpler we can refer to? possibly like:

10 hit rating = 11.11 dps
10 spell power = 13.05 dps
10 haste rating = 6.44 dps
10 crit rating = 4.96 dps
10 spirit = 6.66 dps
10 int = 1.50 dps


i might be asking for too much, was just thinking it might be good if there was something like this that everyone can just refer to quickly when trying to decide which gears/enchants to prioritize.
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Old May 13, 2009, 10:49 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Maddblazed
80 Undead Warlock
Tichondrius US PvP
Guild: Grim Vengeance
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 3/13/55
Re: stats for destruction locks to improve DPS

If you want numbers and math try trolling the EJ forums. (You are going to run into a lot of posts saying input your own gear for we all have different current stats and raid makeups that differ from each other)
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It will be beneficial to you to read through the whole thread to get a full understanding of what they are discussing. (PVE raiding 3.1, Mage equivalent, Simcraft 3.1 posts are really good info)

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Old May 13, 2009, 11:03 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Darklawdog
80 Gnome Warlock
Medivh US PvE
Guild: Imperěum
Profile: ArmoryLite
Talent Spec: dualspec
3.1 Re: stats for destruction locks to improve DPS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schiz View Post
I have a problem with getting this spreadsheet to work properly. When I open it I get an error message refering to a Circular Reference problem. I click on Cancel so I can keep working with it but after working on it for a short while it crashes and wipes out Excel for me.

Anyone else having this problem?
http://wowmb.net/forums/f162/34278-b...s_spreadsheet/
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Old May 13, 2009, 12:00 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Lathiel
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Chamber of Aspects Euro PvE
Guild: Penance
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 3/14/54
Re: stats for destruction locks to improve DPS

Warlock_T8_00_13_58 Int=0.63 Spi=0.83 SP=1.55 Crit=0.99 Haste=1.32
Warlock_T8_00_40_31 Int=0.30 Spi=0.83 SP=1.31 Crit=0.78 Haste=1.18
Warlock_T8_00_41_30 Int=0.27 Spi=0.77 SP=1.23 Crit=0.69 Haste=1.32
Warlock_T8_03_13_55 Int=0.28 Spi=0.94 SP=1.49 Crit=0.97 Haste=1.37
Warlock_T8_03_52_16 Int=0.35 Spi=1.32 SP=1.18 Crit=0.34 Haste=0.73
Warlock_T8_53_00_18 Int=0.30 Spi=0.78 SP=1.56 Crit=0.80 Haste=0.9

Copied from Simulationcraft on post-3.1 specs - Elitist Jerks (please note, Tier 8)
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Old May 13, 2009, 07:51 PM   #9 (permalink)

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lilsteele
80 Human Warlock
Terenas Euro PvE

Re: stats for destruction locks to improve DPS

note that these scalings include the 3.1.2 changes to destruction

and I'm a bit puzzled by the value of Int... seems too high...

someone checked that?
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Old May 13, 2009, 09:08 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Andrčas
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Magtheridon US PvP
Guild: Unity
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: stats for destruction locks to improve DPS

The int value on 13/58 is so high because it gets back 2% mana everytime ISL procs, so the more int you have the fewer Life Taps you need and the more time you can spend casting damaging spells. And 13/58 uses the Immolate glyph not life tap, just in case anyone was wondering.
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