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October 27, 2009, 11:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
Sashivna Character Info Sashivna 80 Human Warlock Silver Hand US RP PvE Guild: Razor's Edge Talent Spec: 56/0/15	Affliction Lock in need of gear advice Hi folks! I'm looking for some advice on some upgrades. Here's what I currently have: The World of Warcraft Armory I run Uld10 and ToC10 (regular on both, although we're starting Heroic ToC10). My question is this: I'm looking at purchasing the Legwraps of the Master Conjurer. I have ~50 emblems of Conquest and ~20 Emblems of Triumph at this moment. Would this be a good option? If so, I'll be breaking the last part of my T7 gear, so some advice on shoulder slots would be helpful as well. I've been using Rawr to evaluate gear, but would like the community's advice on some things that I may not be considering. N.B. I will not be speccing destro. It's a personal choice, and I've been an afflock since Vanilla. --Sashivna

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October 27, 2009, 11:56 AM	#2 (permalink)
Carnall Character Info Carnall 80 Human Warlock Rexxar US PvE Guild: Sanctified Talent Spec: Dest/Dem	Re: Affliction Lock in need of gear advice How quickly are you racking up emblems? If you are getting tons of conquest I'd go with getting 2 t8 and the rest t9 untill you can get 4t9. I'm not sold on the pants (though I have them)... you can run VoA and get the t9 pants if you are lucky. By the way, and I'm sure you know this, you can afford to lose 20 hit and still be capped. I'm fairly certain that +20% to UA > 10% crit to shadowbolt but I'm not positive. =D Typically I play around on wowhead profiler with gear and gems until I get a set up I like and aim to do that.

October 27, 2009, 12:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sashivna Character Info Sashivna 80 Human Warlock Silver Hand US RP PvE Guild: Razor's Edge Talent Spec: 56/0/15	Re: Affliction Lock in need of gear advice I don't have a lot of time to run many heroics, so I don't get as many conquest as I could. That said, I thought about the 2pc T8, but wondered if that would be better given my current robe (off Anubarak) and hat (the two pcs, if I'm not mistaken, that I could get w/ badges). I had planned on doing just what you suggested, but got the robe before I actually had enough conquest to get any T8 pcs. I guess that's one of the reasons I came here for some advice -- all choices seem to sacrifice something or another. And, yeah, been trying to lose some hit here and there, especially since I almost always run w/ draenai (hopefully I haven't missed any hit gems when I was regemming).

October 27, 2009, 12:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Evictoray Character Info Evictoray 80 Undead Warlock maiev US PvP Profile: Blizzard Armory	Re: Affliction Lock in need of gear advice I know you didnt ask this, but also, dropping suppression is a dps loss because of the mana reduction. I see what you are doing with dark pact, but it doesn't make up for it.

October 27, 2009, 12:28 PM

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Sashivna

Character Info
Sashivna
80 Human Warlock
Silver Hand US RP PvE
Guild: Razor's Edge
Talent Spec: 56/0/15

Re: Affliction Lock in need of gear advice

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Originally Posted by Evictoray

I know you didnt ask this, but also, dropping suppression is a dps loss because of the mana reduction. I see what you are doing with dark pact, but it doesn't make up for it.

My reasoning was a little simple: I don't really run into mana issues. I use Life Tap to keep the glyphed buff up and rarely use dark pact in raids except in some fairly rare cases -- extra long fights where I'm taking too much splash damage to life tap effectively or too many of our dps have died early (making the fight much longer than it should normally be). This, of course, doesn't count my solo farming where I may be continuously casting for a very long time and taking all damage myself).

October 27, 2009, 12:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
dethkrik Character Info Dethkrik 80 Blood Elf Warlock Turalyon US PvE Guild: War Machine	Re: Affliction Lock in need of gear advice IMO, save your EoC for the T8.5 helm. Once your EoT are up to 30, replace your shoulders. In the meantime you can be hoping for a leg drop (or optionally, you can save for another week and get the T9 Legs instead of the shoulders). Once you have the T8.5 Helm, save up your EoC for the Chest to get your 2piece T8.5, and save up your EoT for the other of the Shoulders/Legs that you didn't get first. Once you have those, I would suggest using your EoC to get Epic Gems for your gear. and saving your EoT for the T9 Gloves & Hood of Smoldering Aftermath, then for Crusader Orbs for the Merlin's Robe. Once you have all that, it should be about Icecrown time. Oh, and once you get Heroic NB down, the belt off Icehowl is very nice, and try to get the staff Illumination if it drops (even in normal ToC), it should be a huge upgrade over the main/offhand combo you have right now. The main thing you need is more spellpower and more haste, and you are well over the hit cap.

October 27, 2009, 01:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
lilsteele Character Info lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE	Re: Affliction Lock in need of gear advice Things to consider for affliction, and for 10 man raiders: - The 2pc T9 bonus is rather bad. The 4pc bonus is good though - Emblems can either be spent on ilvl 245 well itemized non-tier gear or on ilvl 232 mediocre itemized tier gear. Because of this, it might be a good strategy to completely skip the T9 gear set. The Pauldrons of Revered Mortality and the Hood of Fiery Aftermath are excellent items that won't see any upgrades in the content you are raiding. For all other slots you should take any upgrades that ToC 10 has to offer. In particular you should not hesitate to break your T7 2pc set. The only tricky question is whether to go for the 2pc T8 bonus. I wouldn't hesitate dropping Anub's chest for the T8 (ilvl 226) one. Their stats are not that different in the end. However then the question remains which other T8 to get. I wouldn't drop the ToC gloves, and the T8 shoulders are hard to get (and probably you want the Triumph emblem shoulders). The Legs would be an obvious choice, or the head, if you don't want to buy the Triumph emblem head. Note that for destruction I would give different advice, in case you do consider changing specs. Also, concerning your affliction spec: If you ever come into a situation where a gear upgrade brings you below the hit cap, please respec and take the points in supression. In particular you could farm for the Abyssal Rune in ToC normal and replace the hit trinklet.

October 27, 2009, 03:50 PM

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dethkrik

Character Info
Dethkrik
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Turalyon US PvE
Guild: War Machine

Re: Affliction Lock in need of gear advice

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Originally Posted by Sashivna

While you may not be running into mana issues, keep in mind that instead of some of your gear having +haste or +crit, it has +hit. Hit is a worthless stat. While not being hit capped will lower your dps due to missing, hit itself in no way increases your dps, so having all the gear necessary to reach 448+ hit means you are missing out on a lot of +haste and +crit that could significantly increase your dps, much moreso than the utility of Grim Reach's extra range and Dark Pact .

October 27, 2009, 04:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sashivna Character Info Sashivna 80 Human Warlock Silver Hand US RP PvE Guild: Razor's Edge Talent Spec: 56/0/15	Re: Affliction Lock in need of gear advice Lilsteele, thank you! That's exactly the kind of discussion I was looking for (and raising the same questions I was asking myself). Now, given that I'm not exactly racking in tons of badges as I simply don't have the time, is it worth the wait to ditch Anub's robe and get a single pc of T8 (like the robe) and work toward getting the other piece (the hat would be the choice (or vice versa?), since I don't really do much VoA and I do almost no 25man runs of anything)? I think I was looking toward replacing both remaining T7 pieces as well as the handful of other ilv 200 gear I had left. I don't like to count on drops, but I definitely take any upgrades from ToC, thus the three items I do have. With regard to dethkrik's response -- I'm not intentionally gearing up +hit with no regard to crit or haste. It's just that the drops I do get (which have all been upgrades in addition to the net 166 hit) have had plenty of hit on them. For example, Anub's robe replaced my T7 robe. The Darkbane pendant replaced my heroic badge neck. The goves I have now replaced my T7 gloves. Regardless of hit, those items were upgrades across the board on everything else. The Living Flame trinket I use replaced some green trinket long ago. (No, I never got a chance to get the MotWP because the stupid thing would never drop when I wanted it.) I also never saw Embrace of the Spider off Maexxna drop when we were still doing Naxx. I'm not very lucky at seeing good caster trinkets drop. To be honest, I've been looking out for a replacement for it for some time.

October 27, 2009, 05:10 PM

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dethkrik

Character Info
Dethkrik
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Turalyon US PvE
Guild: War Machine

Re: Affliction Lock in need of gear advice

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Originally Posted by Sashivna

Lilsteele, thank you! That's exactly the kind of discussion I was looking for (and raising the same questions I was asking myself). Now, given that I'm not exactly racking in tons of badges as I simply don't have the time, is it worth the wait to ditch Anub's robe and get a single pc of T8 (like the robe) and work toward getting the other piece (the hat would be the choice (or vice versa?), since I don't really do much VoA and I do almost no 25man runs of anything)?

I think I was looking toward replacing both remaining T7 pieces as well as the handful of other ilv 200 gear I had left. I don't like to count on drops, but I definitely take any upgrades from ToC, thus the three items I do have.

First off, I would highly suggest doing VoA, usually, even if you get on twice a week, chances are your faction will have VoA for some period of that time and getting in there give you 2 more EoT and 4 EoC, plus the chance for T8 or T9 drops. Highly worth the time.

If you don't get many Emblems, then spending them on the best option available the first time is what you are after. I suggest going to chardev.org, load up your character, and select the emblem pieces you are looking to upgrade and see which ones give you the best stat balance. It wouldn't be any good to buy all +hit or +crit items. Once you find the combo that gives you the best +spellpower/haste/crit combo while keeping you hit capped, go with that.

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Originally Posted by Sashivna

With regard to dethkrik's response -- I'm not intentionally gearing up +hit with no regard to crit or haste. It's just that the drops I do get (which have all been upgrades in addition to the net 166 hit) have had plenty of hit on them. For example, Anub's robe replaced my T7 robe. The Darkbane pendant replaced my heroic badge neck. The goves I have now replaced my T7 gloves. Regardless of hit, those items were upgrades across the board on everything else.

The Living Flame trinket I use replaced some green trinket long ago. (No, I never got a chance to get the MotWP because the stupid thing would never drop when I wanted it.) I also never saw Embrace of the Spider off Maexxna drop when we were still doing Naxx. I'm not very lucky at seeing good caster trinkets drop. To be honest, I've been looking out for a replacement for it for some time.

If those are the only options you've had, then your working with what you've got, but if you are trying for 17% hit from gear only, you would be wasting stat allocation on hit instead of haste/crit/spirit.

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