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Old October 09, 2009, 10:55 AM   #1 (permalink)

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70 Human Warlock
hyjal US PvE
Guild: Crisis
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Talent Spec: 41/5/16
Casting Macro's

I am posting this to let my fellow warlocks know about an experiment i did regarding casting macros. While i know using casting macros is bad for the lack of flexibility as in it's hard to change targets which results in getting out of sequence but I thought using it on a boss where you did not change targets much would be ok. Well that's wrong I found that in a stand up fight like XT where I was not taking care of the adds I was loosing incinerates to the other lock in the raid as in 208 to 141 more than a little bit. It was hard mode and lasted almost 10 min. Some of the difference is his haste which is 100 points higher than me but that is not enough to account for this kind of shortfall. Oh I only got the gravity or light thing one time so that wasn't a factor.

Anyway i tested this shortened macro casting /castsequence reset=target/combat incinerate, incinerate, incinerate, incinerate against just spamming the incinerate button. The idea is to see if over one min if i get the same # of incinerates using the macro as I do spamming the incinerate button and guess what spamming the incinerate button yielded 27 incinerates and using the macro yielded 24 incinerates. I did repeat this and it was consistent some times i lost 1 or 2 more incinerates but never less than 3.

What I use in combat is /castsequence reset=target/combat immolate, chaos bolt, incinerate, incinerate, incinerate, incinerate just for the record. I insert the conflag when the CD timer is up.

I am not at all sure why this is it should be the same but it's not at least not for me anyway. i thought I would share this so anyone else that's maybe using the macros will know.
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Old November 14, 2009, 12:09 AM   #2 (permalink)

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80 Gnome Warlock
Thorium Brotherhood US RP PvE
Guild: Corrupted Morality
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Talent Spec: 0/14/57
3.2 Re: Casting Macro's

I never really thought about it, but that would make sense, as your system takes a certain amount of time to parse and process the macro every time you use it. I do find the discrepency surprisingly high though.
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Old November 14, 2009, 12:38 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Cormanthor
80 Human Warlock
Gnomeregan US PvE
Guild: Knights who say Ni
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Talent Spec: Various
3.2 Re: Casting Macro's

It might be related to the /stopcasting changes Blizzard made late into The Burning Crusade (?) in an effort to make addons like Quartz unnecessary. There is a time period where the UI will send data to the server even though it thinks you are still casting -- an effort to reduce DPS lost due to lag.

This change may not have the same level of benefits to a /castsequence macro. It would be interesting to see if a change in your lag greatly increases the difference between the two tests.
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Old November 14, 2009, 03:05 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Klandastu
80 Human Warlock
Cenarion Circle US RP Guild: Bladestorm

Re: Casting Macro's

Thinking I could eke out more DPS, I tried out your macro using my raid set and then my normal soloing set. I then used both sets with my normal rotation (Immo, CB, Conflag, Incin, x3) and found that I did 500-600 more DPS using my normal rotation than using your macro on each set.

What I did find interesting with your macro is that the times to cast all spells, including Conflag, timed perfectly with Immolate's expiration. I found I was casting Immo right at the 1-2 second mark before Immolate expired which seems like all is good in the world. This meant I could get in the four Incinerates your macro uses versus the three my normal rotation uses which seems really great when you think about the ease of use. But, the timing can be attributed to what the poster above stated about the time delay to parse your macro which makes everything seem to work just fine.

However, I was able to do more DPS because I was casting CB when it expired versus when your macro got around to casting it. Yes, your macro produces more Incinerates, but less CB means lower DPS. Even if you deleted the fourth Incinerate from your macro I think you would find yourself standing there waiting to cast something. If you spammed your macro instead, you would clip Immolate and lower your DPS even further.

I say all this for two reasons:

1 - The timing of the macro results in lower DPS and you should probably drop using it because

2 - Incinerates are fillers and should not be used on a set number of casts but rather casted when the other spells are on CD

So, what I tried was a combination of macros for all the spells but nothing beat out my DPS on my normal rotation. After trying everything, I think putting all spells on one macro is a bad idea because as the fight progresses certain spells are on CD, others available, and no macro can predict which is the correct spell to cast next.
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