Hunter: Compiled List of changes coming for Hunters in WotLK

*Akasha* · June 30, 2008, 04:07 AM

As I have mentioned in the past, Hunters are my equal favorite class in WoW. It's also the class I happen to be playing at the moment. Because I just don't have the time to go googling and scouring other websites (and wouldn't you all prefer I spend my time updating this one *grin*), I'm asking for the assistance of those with the time to help out.

Looking for any and all info on the upcoming changes for Hunters in Wrath of the Lich King.

Theleb · June 30, 2008, 04:25 AM

Allow me to give you further material for your perusal..

MMO-Champion - World of Warcraft Guides and Raid Strategies

Hunter

All kind of pets will have their own talent tree. A tanking talent tree, a DPS talent tree, and an utility talent tree. Each kind of pet family will have its own talent tree and its own unique ability.
The shot clipping will be removed from Steady Shot, you'll be able to use it without "interrupting" your autoshot. Hunters will be able to just smash their button.
There are going to be new pets in Wrath of the Lich King.
The skill points for each pets are being changed to the new "Pet talents" and will disappear.

*Akasha* · June 30, 2008, 04:33 AM

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All kind of pets will have their own talent tree. A tanking talent tree, a DPS talent tree, and an utility talent tree. Each kind of pet family will have its own talent tree and its own unique ability.

So, am I reading that right? The Pet will have it's own talent trees separate to the Hunter talent trees?

Theleb · June 30, 2008, 04:51 AM

Yep.

Few proposed talents:

Beast Training

* New line of pet spells called "Smack". Equivalent to Claw except with different name.
* Tendom Rip (Rank 1) - 25 focus, Next melee, 20 second cooldown. "Damages an enemy for 3 to 5 and reduces movement speed by 25% for 8 sec."
* Spore Cloud (Rank 1) - 50 focus, 10 second cooldown. "Inflicts 2 nature damage to nearby enemies every 2 sec for 6 sec and reduces armor by 15%.
* Dust Cloud (Rank 1) - 50 focus, 20 second cooldown. "Kick up an obscuring cloud of dust, lowering the chance for enemies to hit by 30%. Effects last 8 sec."
* Serenity Dust (Rank 1) - 75 focus, 2 minute cooldown. "Heals the pet for 510 over 15 sec."
* Bad Attitude (Rank 1) - 25 focus, 3 minute cooldown. "Snap back for 5 damage at any target that strikes you for the next 2 min."
* Nether Shock (Rank 1) - 30 focus, 20 yard range, 6 second cooldown. "Instantly lashes an enemy for 17 to 19 Shadow damage. Also interrupts spellcasting and prevents any spell in that school from being cast for 1 sec."
* Ravage (Rank 1) - 80 focus, 1 minute cooldown. "Violently attack an enemy for 4 to 6, stunning it for 2 sec."
* Sonic Blast (Rank 1) - 80 focus, 1 minute cooldown. "Emits a piercing shriek, inflicted 4 to 6 physical damage and stunning the target for 2 sec."
* Wing Buffet (Rank 1) - 40 focus, 30 second cooldown. "Blasts the target for 4 to 6 damage and knocking it back."
* Snatch (Rank 1) - 40 focus, 1 minute cooldown. "Grab the enemy's weapon with your talons, disarming them for 10 sec."
* Pin (Rank 1) - 80 Focus, channeled, 20 second cooldown. "Pins the target in place, and squeezes for 20 damage over 12 sec."

Vaell · June 30, 2008, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Akasha

So, am I reading that right? The Pet will have it's own talent trees separate to the Hunter talent trees?

Pets have their own talent tree already. It's called Beast Mastery

Sorry couldn't resist. Hmm, then really, really, demons should get their own trees too.

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Originally Posted by Theleb

Yep.

Few proposed talents:

Beast Training

* New line of pet spells called "Smack". Equivalent to Claw except with different name.
* Tendom Rip (Rank 1) - 25 focus, Next melee, 20 second cooldown. "Damages an enemy for 3 to 5 and reduces movement speed by 25% for 8 sec."
* Spore Cloud (Rank 1) - 50 focus, 10 second cooldown. "Inflicts 2 nature damage to nearby enemies every 2 sec for 6 sec and reduces armor by 15%.
* Dust Cloud (Rank 1) - 50 focus, 20 second cooldown. "Kick up an obscuring cloud of dust, lowering the chance for enemies to hit by 30%. Effects last 8 sec."
* Serenity Dust (Rank 1) - 75 focus, 2 minute cooldown. "Heals the pet for 510 over 15 sec."
* Bad Attitude (Rank 1) - 25 focus, 3 minute cooldown. "Snap back for 5 damage at any target that strikes you for the next 2 min."
* Nether Shock (Rank 1) - 30 focus, 20 yard range, 6 second cooldown. "Instantly lashes an enemy for 17 to 19 Shadow damage. Also interrupts spellcasting and prevents any spell in that school from being cast for 1 sec."
* Ravage (Rank 1) - 80 focus, 1 minute cooldown. "Violently attack an enemy for 4 to 6, stunning it for 2 sec."
* Sonic Blast (Rank 1) - 80 focus, 1 minute cooldown. "Emits a piercing shriek, inflicted 4 to 6 physical damage and stunning the target for 2 sec."
* Wing Buffet (Rank 1) - 40 focus, 30 second cooldown. "Blasts the target for 4 to 6 damage and knocking it back."
* Snatch (Rank 1) - 40 focus, 1 minute cooldown. "Grab the enemy's weapon with your talons, disarming them for 10 sec."
* Pin (Rank 1) - 80 Focus, channeled, 20 second cooldown. "Pins the target in place, and squeezes for 20 damage over 12 sec."

Warlock Demon Training:

exciting new (did I say new?) abilities for your favorite demons!

Attack - with one simple click your demon will feign a movement towards your enemy, only to glitch a little and hop faithfully by your side once more.
Stay - Just like attack!... but without the pesky jerky walk animation.
Follow - sometimes it will, sometimes it won't! Trees and terrain prove to be more than a match from your demon from the nether! The chaotic world of the warlock, ladies and gentlemen!

Demon specific abilities!

Same old 3 things per demon, k?

Must.. Be. Less... sarcastic. If I... Can just. Reach... Switch...

*Akasha* · June 30, 2008, 04:55 AM

*smacks Vaell*

If that's the case then, each of our Minions should have their own talent trees too! Or hell, even one tree per Pet!

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New line of pet spells called "Smack"

Sorry, but LOL. Smack? Really? LOL

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Bad Attitude (Rank 1)

Ok, I'll stop laughing at Smack now pmsl

*sees the word Snatch and spits coke all over the monitor* Ok, lol, seriously. You can 'pin' the target, hit the 'snatch', give em a bit of a 'smack' and all with a 'bad attitude'. Who was drinking at Blizzard that night?

And after seeing what Hunters get, then by god yes Warlock pets should scale!

Vaell · June 30, 2008, 05:20 AM

Oops, didn't realise you'd moved the thread. Disregard demon comments as you see fit.

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Originally Posted by Akasha

*sees the word Snatch and spits coke all over the monitor* Ok, lol, seriously. You can 'pin' the target, hit the 'snatch', give em a bit of a 'smack' and all with a 'bad attitude'. Who was drinking at Blizzard that night?

And after seeing what Hunters get, then by god yes Warlock pets should scale!

RE: Smack and Snatch - it could have been worse. They could have named the talents after an intravenously taken opiate narcotic and a colloquial term for a ladies unmentionables.

Oh...!

Hmm I've had one smack already. I'd better go!

Theleb · June 30, 2008, 05:48 AM

rofl

Maltyrius · June 30, 2008, 09:57 AM

I'm playing my hunter more than anything right now as well. I really hope they do something with the pet family bonuses. Seperate talent trees will be fun and all but if cats/ravagers/raptors have the passive DPS boost over the other families they will still be way over represented as a whole with most hunters.

Although the only real way to do this would be to normalize all pets and every boost only comes from talents.

(I broke down and leveled a cat to get prowl - if we get the alpha spell Camoflauge it will be nice for coming out of 'stealth' with an aimed shot and angry kitteh!)

RomaGoth · June 30, 2008, 10:29 AM

I have also been playing my hunter more lately. Got three of the pvp pieces for a minor upgrade to my gear, and am into revered with shattered sun as well. Two of my pets are level 70, but my third is a cat I picked up in Winterspring after abandoning my other level 70 cat (I like the look of the new one more), but unfortunately he is only level 60

. I have no idea how to level him up, as he seems to not get xp against same level mobs (undead in plaguelands for example). Anyone have any ideas? If I can't level him up, I will just wait until WoLK comes out and perhaps a new cat will be available?

The changes to hunter pets look nice, I am hoping they keep most of them at launch before the impending nerf hunters pets crying begins

.

June 30, 2008, 04:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
Theleb Moderator Character Info Theleb 70 Human Warlock Shadowsong Euro PvE Guild: Original Talent Spec: 0/46/15	Re: No pet Scaling in Wotlk??? Allow me to give you further material for your perusal.. MMO-Champion - World of Warcraft Guides and Raid Strategies Hunter All kind of pets will have their own talent tree. A tanking talent tree, a DPS talent tree, and an utility talent tree. Each kind of pet family will have its own talent tree and its own unique ability. The shot clipping will be removed from Steady Shot, you'll be able to use it without "interrupting" your autoshot. Hunters will be able to just smash their button. There are going to be new pets in Wrath of the Lich King. The skill points for each pets are being changed to the new "Pet talents" and will disappear.

June 30, 2008, 04:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
Theleb Moderator Character Info Theleb 70 Human Warlock Shadowsong Euro PvE Guild: Original Talent Spec: 0/46/15	Re: No pet Scaling in Wotlk??? Yep. Few proposed talents: Beast Training * New line of pet spells called "Smack". Equivalent to Claw except with different name. * Tendom Rip (Rank 1) - 25 focus, Next melee, 20 second cooldown. "Damages an enemy for 3 to 5 and reduces movement speed by 25% for 8 sec." * Spore Cloud (Rank 1) - 50 focus, 10 second cooldown. "Inflicts 2 nature damage to nearby enemies every 2 sec for 6 sec and reduces armor by 15%. * Dust Cloud (Rank 1) - 50 focus, 20 second cooldown. "Kick up an obscuring cloud of dust, lowering the chance for enemies to hit by 30%. Effects last 8 sec." * Serenity Dust (Rank 1) - 75 focus, 2 minute cooldown. "Heals the pet for 510 over 15 sec." * Bad Attitude (Rank 1) - 25 focus, 3 minute cooldown. "Snap back for 5 damage at any target that strikes you for the next 2 min." * Nether Shock (Rank 1) - 30 focus, 20 yard range, 6 second cooldown. "Instantly lashes an enemy for 17 to 19 Shadow damage. Also interrupts spellcasting and prevents any spell in that school from being cast for 1 sec." * Ravage (Rank 1) - 80 focus, 1 minute cooldown. "Violently attack an enemy for 4 to 6, stunning it for 2 sec." * Sonic Blast (Rank 1) - 80 focus, 1 minute cooldown. "Emits a piercing shriek, inflicted 4 to 6 physical damage and stunning the target for 2 sec." * Wing Buffet (Rank 1) - 40 focus, 30 second cooldown. "Blasts the target for 4 to 6 damage and knocking it back." * Snatch (Rank 1) - 40 focus, 1 minute cooldown. "Grab the enemy's weapon with your talons, disarming them for 10 sec." * Pin (Rank 1) - 80 Focus, channeled, 20 second cooldown. "Pins the target in place, and squeezes for 20 damage over 12 sec."

June 30, 2008, 05:48 AM	#8 (permalink)
Theleb Moderator Character Info Theleb 70 Human Warlock Shadowsong Euro PvE Guild: Original Talent Spec: 0/46/15	Re: Compiled List of changes coming for Hunters in WotLK rofl

June 30, 2008, 09:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
Maltyrius Moderator Character Info Maltyrius 70 Human Warlock Khaz Modan US PvE Guild: Prestige Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 43/7/11	Re: Compiled List of changes coming for Hunters in WotLK I'm playing my hunter more than anything right now as well. I really hope they do something with the pet family bonuses. Seperate talent trees will be fun and all but if cats/ravagers/raptors have the passive DPS boost over the other families they will still be way over represented as a whole with most hunters. Although the only real way to do this would be to normalize all pets and every boost only comes from talents. (I broke down and leveled a cat to get prowl - if we get the alpha spell Camoflauge it will be nice for coming out of 'stealth' with an aimed shot and angry kitteh!)

June 30, 2008, 10:29 AM	#10 (permalink)
RomaGoth Lock of All Trades Character Info RomaGoth 70 Human Warlock Durotan US PvE Guild: Ultima Forsan Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/8/53	Re: Compiled List of changes coming for Hunters in WotLK I have also been playing my hunter more lately. Got three of the pvp pieces for a minor upgrade to my gear, and am into revered with shattered sun as well. Two of my pets are level 70, but my third is a cat I picked up in Winterspring after abandoning my other level 70 cat (I like the look of the new one more), but unfortunately he is only level 60 . I have no idea how to level him up, as he seems to not get xp against same level mobs (undead in plaguelands for example). Anyone have any ideas? If I can't level him up, I will just wait until WoLK comes out and perhaps a new cat will be available? The changes to hunter pets look nice, I am hoping they keep most of them at launch before the impending nerf hunters pets crying begins .

June 30, 2008, 04:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
Akasha	Compiled List of changes coming for Hunters in WotLK As I have mentioned in the past, Hunters are my equal favorite class in WoW. It's also the class I happen to be playing at the moment. Because I just don't have the time to go googling and scouring other websites (and wouldn't you all prefer I spend my time updating this one grin), I'm asking for the assistance of those with the time to help out. Looking for any and all info on the upcoming changes for Hunters in Wrath of the Lich King.