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July 17, 2007, 01:52 PM
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Magmar 70 Orc Warlock Gorefiend US PvP Guild: No Quarter Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 43/7/11 |
Powerful Earthstorm vs. Mystical Skyfire in Arenas
I'd like to see what people think about the following two meta gems in the Arena setting: Powerful Earthstorm Diamond (+18 Stamina/+5% Stun Resist) and Mystical Skyfire Diamond (+5% on spellcast - next spell 50% casting time). I think the Powerful Earthstorm Diamond provides a huge survivability boost in 2v2, 3v3 and 5v5 settings, regardless of one's spec. Locks with demonic embrace and demonic knowledge get more mileage out of Stamina than other locks, so I think this is the best meta gem if both of these talents are in your spec. With all of the mace warriors and rogues you see these days I think that the stun resist is a huge asset as well, especially for non-Orcs (who have the 15% Stun Resist "Hardiness" racial). As a felguard lock, I used this meta for all of season 1 and didn't think twice about using any other meta gem in its place. For season 2, however, I dropped my felguard spec and switched to an Unstable Affliction build. I've redone all of my gear to focus more on spell damage and resilience and less on stamina. So far I'm really happy with all of these changes. My survivability has taken a hit because I have a couple thousand fewer hit points now and no soul link, but I can get away with it to an extent because I have tons of resilience and solid teammates. In exchange, I do a lot more damage now and I feel like I'm a much bigger threat in 5v5s than I used to be. My dillemma now is that I'd like to switch to the Mystical Skyfire Diamond, but I'm afraid my survivability would take too big of a hit. I think that the Mystical Skyfire Diamond would be ideal for Unstable Affliction locks because 1) we constantly cast instant DoTs, curses, etc. that all have a chance to proc the effect, and 2) it seems like half casting time would be extremely powerful for Unstable Affliction (Fear and Shadowbolt could work well, too). If anyone has tested the Mystical Skyfire gem, especially in the arenas, would you please give me your impressions of it? Also, do you know if it triggers off of casting buffs like Unending Breath? Thanks!
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July 18, 2007, 12:54 PM
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Gritz 80 Orc Warlock Eldre'Thalas US PvE Guild: Fate Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: Destro |
Re: Powerful Earthstorm vs. Mystical Skyfire in Arenas
It's a tough call. If you have the cash for it, try switching out the PES for MSD. A 2.5s Drain life = <3 <3 I personally use the PES for PvP and the MSD for PvE. The 25% total stun resist (5% base + 15% racial + 5% gem) is too much to pass up for me though. |
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July 18, 2007, 01:11 PM
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Kamine 70 Orc Warlock Conseil des Ombres Euro RP PvP Guild: Taverne du Crochet Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/42/19 |
Re: Powerful Earthstorm vs. Mystical Skyfire in Arenas
you can't rely on Mystical Skyfire Diamond but when it procs, it often a step closer to victory. But remember the effect is 3 sec long, so 1 GDC and do something immediatly ! it's more fun less stable, but when it procs multiple times in a row (an arena warrior i fought should remember my 4 procs in a row after a deatchcoil transformed into 4 crit shadowbolt in a row last night) it's pure fun. and that's what I'm looking for. the 2 sec cast soulfire or 0,45 sec fear is great also. anyway, it's not reasonnable.
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July 18, 2007, 07:34 PM
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Themorrigan 70 Human Warlock Kil'Jaeden US PvP Guild: The Collective Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/0/0 |
Re: Powerful Earthstorm vs. Mystical Skyfire in Arenas
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July 19, 2007, 06:05 AM
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Exaes 70 Blood Elf Warlock Azgalor US PvP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 45/5/11 |
Re: Powerful Earthstorm vs. Mystical Skyfire in Arenas
I think a 2 second soulfire is more fun most of the time but I do often use it for drain life. I will say I definitely prefer the mystical skyfire for all my pvping (ignore my armory right now, I went destro just for the hell of it for a couple days.) |
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July 19, 2007, 05:44 PM
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Magmar 70 Orc Warlock Gorefiend US PvP Guild: No Quarter Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 43/7/11 |
Re: Powerful Earthstorm vs. Mystical Skyfire in Arenas
Great feedback, thanks everyone. I switched to the Mystical Skyfire gem the other day and so far I'm very glad that I did. As I had hoped, the proc is extremely powerful when used with UA, especially in 5v5s. Also I've been able to get a lot of mileage out of 2.5s drain life and drain mana, which I use frequently in 2v2 and 3v3 matches. It's great being able to get all 5 ticks of those spells on such a short casting time because you have a must lower chance of getting interrupted or locked out of Shadow spells. By the way, the MSD effect has a chance to proc on all spells, including Lifetap and Unending Breath. While the MSD could be useful for all warlock specs, I think I would recommend the PED unless your spec includes Unstable Affliction.
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July 19, 2007, 06:56 PM
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Exaes 70 Blood Elf Warlock Azgalor US PvP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 45/5/11 |
Re: Powerful Earthstorm vs. Mystical Skyfire in Arenas
MSD also procs off of crafting and speeds up your next craft as well. |
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August 13, 2007, 09:25 AM
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Semtarn 70 Gnome Warlock Nagrand Euro PvE Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 27/34/0 |
Re: Powerful Earthstorm vs. Mystical Skyfire in Arenas
I hope it is not considered high jacking, but I would also consider these two gems: Insightfull earthstorm, +12 int and chance to regen mana. Other peeps done calcs, and it matches about 20 mana regen per 5 sec on average. I dont know about you but i always run out of mana in the bg's Another one, I read about here on board, but that I cannot find on Thottbott or WoW is 1 Meta (Swift Skyfire Diamond [12 dam, fast run speed] but of course could also use boars speed enchant of boots instead. |
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August 13, 2007, 10:08 AM
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Gritz 80 Orc Warlock Eldre'Thalas US PvE Guild: Fate Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: Destro |
Re: Powerful Earthstorm vs. Mystical Skyfire in Arenas
Nah, I use lifetap to regen mana, boar's speed on my boots, and 12 spell damage or 12 int would never win/lose a match for me. The appeal of the 50% cast time and stun resist is that it makes things behave differently. Example 1: If you opponent is expecting to stun you, but you resist the stun and DC him or her, you've turned the fight in your favor. Example 2: If you're opponent is waiting to CS/Pummel/Kick your next fear, you can tab DoT with all of your instants, wait for the proc, then cast a .75s fear; your opponent will likely not have time to react. ----------------- For BGs though, anything works, since you can rez for free 
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August 13, 2007, 10:54 AM
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Zurbious 70 Human Warlock Kalecgos US PvP Guild: Cupcake Bunnies of Doom Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 43/7/11 |
Re: Powerful Earthstorm vs. Mystical Skyfire in Arenas
The problem is that you can never rely on these things. The Stun Resist will help you... but will it help when you need it? The faster cast will help... but will it help when you need it? Having to do 20 casts just to get it to proc once in there. It also has to do with your spec and playstyle. If trying to outlast someone go for the +stun resist. If going for bust damage for for the 50% cast speed. |
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