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Old January 06, 2008, 12:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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allerria US PvE

warlock vs. hunters

in BG, like AB, AV, and others. im having trouble with hunters with the spam stunning and others. any strategy to defeat them? or is it too overpowered?
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Old January 06, 2008, 12:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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5p Orc Warlock
Detheroc US PvP
Guild: Intervention
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Talent Spec: 41/0/0
Siphon Life on pet ,siphon life on hunter.
Curse Of Weakness on pet if possible.
Abuse Line Of Sight if possible.
Fear hunter ,throw all dots,drain life,ignore pet.
Fear his pet if possible.
Only use instant casts unless he is feared.
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Old January 06, 2008, 12:32 AM   #3 (permalink)
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70 Blood Elf Warlock
Shadow Council US RP Guild: Syk
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Talent Spec: 0/14/47
Re: warlock vs. hunters

Hmm.. and if im destro?
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Old January 06, 2008, 01:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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70 Gnome Warlock
deathwing Euro PvP
Talent Spec: 5/45/11
Re: warlock vs. hunters

again...:
-carry healthstone and pvp potions from extra AV marks , just in case.

-ignore pet
-DC then fear hunter , if BM on, abuse LoS for 15 seconds while insta dotting before the dc/fear.
-while hunter is feared, cast your best rotation and better be short casting time unless you have a talent to avoid interrupt. Retarget if he feign death.
-refresh fear
-nuke/drain life whatever you are better at....

they can burst faster than us, only way to break that is with a fear.

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Old January 06, 2008, 12:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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70 Human Warlock
FrostWolf US PvP
Guild: The Brotherhood
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Talent Spec: 42/2/17
Re: warlock vs. hunters

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-DC then fear hunter , if BM on, abuse LoS for 15 seconds while insta dotting before the dc/fear.
Most hunters I run into are Bm spec... As soon as they see a loc they pop The Beast Within. That's 18 sec of anti-fear. Any suggestions for that? (besides die a horrible death?)
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Old January 06, 2008, 12:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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70 Blood Elf Warlock
Gul'Dan US PvP
Talent Spec: 24/37/0
Re: warlock vs. hunters

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Most hunters I run into are Bm spec... As soon as they see a loc they pop The Beast Within. That's 18 sec of anti-fear. Any suggestions for that? (besides die a horrible death?)
The most logical way to get around that is... run away for 18 seconds.

Shadowfury is your friend as a destro lock against hunters.

Shadow fury them, which is 2 seconds of free casting time to cast your fear.

Curse of weakness the pet, and blast the crap out of the hunter.

If you don't kill him in the duration of the first fear, deathcoil him and fear him again, and pewpewpewwww.

Shadowfury is your friend. It works wonders for me against just about everyone.
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Old January 06, 2008, 11:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Bloodhoof US PvE
Guild: Council of Arathor
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/14/47
Re: warlock vs. hunters

If you are destro, then you probably have one of the easier fights amongst all specs.

1) Curse of Weakness on the Pet. This is not optional. Then you can ignore the pet afterwards. The pet will providee you with all the backlash procs you can use. This is why destro builds can beat hunters.

2) Dot the hunter, this put some pressure on him and he cannot remove them.

3) If he is BM, don't bother with fear. If he is MM, use your spellstone to dispel that silencing shot.

4) Make sure you stay in his melee range, avoid being shot at all times. If you start from max range, use your mount to approach him.

5) Save those deathcoil and shadowfury when he is not using the beast within.

6) Don't be afriad to stand and cast your immolate in melee range. I sometimes even try Soul Fire. Sure, the pet is beating on me, but i am sure you know the beauty of getting a backlash proc while casting soul fire. 4.5k soul fire crit, 3k shadowbolt crit.

Again, with the BM hunter unable to be CCed for 18 sec, and him having relatively little to CC you (Scatter shot or intimidation don't last that long), this fight is a pure dps fight. Use your shadowburn, burn your cooldowns, use your healthstone/pots/trinkets, it is a pure burst damage fight.

Also, the fight is also quite gear dependent as we are trying to outburn eachother, so having that resilience and health is going to help.
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Old January 07, 2008, 08:32 AM   #8 (permalink)
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70 Undead Warlock
lightbringer Euro PvE
Guild: Iron will
Talent Spec: 43/13/5
Re: warlock vs. hunters

ignore the pet if its mm spec yust keep fear teh hunter and dot him ftw and make sure you drian some life to geth some life back if its bm spec i hope you goth trinklet the you will also need to dot aournd keep moving run lik hell till the red think is over and the go for it the thing is you need to keep your self up the time so yump make him cracy it helps run behind things and hope he loos you so you can come back with a good counter atack
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Old January 08, 2008, 08:21 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Sargeras US PvP
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Talent Spec: 0/43/0
Re: warlock vs. hunters

I have a level 55 MM hunter and a 52 lock.
lately Ive been picking on those green or pink hair short locks with my hunter.
I do feel bad about it sometimes.
The 3 biggest reasons I can beat a lock?
1. I get the jump on them. Im not one to jump you while you are fighting a mob. But I know how long it takes for my aimed shot to get off and how long before my pet gets there. I want my aimed shot to hit ya first. Then let the pet get there.
2. Fear me! Please.. if you want to live fear me every which way you can.
3. Lately Ive fought locks without a demon. I dont understand why,

things that make me laugh with pvping a lock.
if you are SS. dont pop right back up. I have tracking. You show up as soon as you rez. I will come back and kill you again. Now you have to do a death run. duh!
dont run away from me. I can run faster. I have a fast pet and I can slow you down with a conc shot.

things that make me run and hide from a lock.
a felguard. They really really hurt.
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Old January 08, 2008, 08:38 AM   #10 (permalink)
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70 Orc Warlock
Burning Legion Euro PvP
Talent Spec: Sl/Sl
Re: warlock vs. hunters

I saw good advices in this thread but:

It's true that a felguard, or a SB crit hurts. But a hunter hurts a lot more! My friend's 1600AP BM 32%crit hunter in pvp equip crits autoshot for 1400. And he has a feral druid around him (me for example with my alt) he has 37% crit. Insane. On top of that , he being healed from spirit bond (2% his life every 10 secs) plus my improved Leader of the pack (4% theyr health every theyr crit (6sec cooldown)).

I simply cast Si/Li on all enemyes, and that sometimes keeps me up long enough that my dots eventually will kill him, or until i kite him in between my friends. Veeeery rare.

Last edited by forketta; January 08, 2008 at 08:39 AM. Reason: typos
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