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Old May 17, 2008, 02:51 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Alhazred
80 Undead Warlock
The Venture Co Euro RP PvP
Guild: Ordo Templi Orientis
Talent Spec: 53/11/7
Obviously broken queue system.

In 9/10 BGs in my battlegroup, Horde starts with less people. sometimes 2 down, sometimes more.
And 1 minute in the game, after we have lost 4 nodes, 3 towers or 1 flag, as by divine miracle, we have a mass join and we're equal!.
Having ticketed a GM about this, he/she/it told me the queue system was working as intended and that i was unlucky and other BS (not blacksmith) like that.
Today, 1 month later after that, the "unlucky" streak continues, in 90% BG i enter, we fight with less people (except Alterac Valley). I paged them again, telling to do something useful with patches and upgrades instead of adding new haircuts and emotes, perhaps address some of these issues and actually fix them! Or change them since they are obviously stupid and extremely frustrating!
A bit immature of me i know, but i was really pissed off and still am.
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Old May 17, 2008, 03:43 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Themorrigan
70 Human Warlock
Kil'Jaeden US PvP
Guild: The Collective
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/0/0
Re: Obviously broken queue system.

I have characters on two battlegroups, Bloodlust and Nightfall (both US). On Bloodlust, it's very rare for either side to start the battle short-handed. On Nightfall, the Horde starts every match with only 1/2-2/3 of the players. I have no idea what causes it.

Also, complaining to GM is like the least useful thing you can do.
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Old May 17, 2008, 03:48 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Banatu
80 Blood Elf Rogue
Kel'Thuzad US PvP
Guild: Massacre
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 41/5/25
Re: Obviously broken queue system.

Same shit here.. I'm on Nightfall (horde) and Whirlwind (alliance) and in both Battlegroups I'm finding we start matches missing about 70% of our people. It fills up fast about 3-4 minutes into the game, which of course is just in time to watch us lose.

Because 5v15 AB is working as intended.
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Old May 17, 2008, 04:21 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Xristarassan
70 Orc Warlock
Lightning's Blade Euro PvP
Guild: DPS for Hire
Profile: Blizzard Armory

Re: Obviously broken queue system.

rampage battlegroup ,the same...horde starts with fewer players and we still manage to win 60% of the bg,s..
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Old May 17, 2008, 04:30 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Alhazred
80 Undead Warlock
The Venture Co Euro RP PvP
Guild: Ordo Templi Orientis
Talent Spec: 53/11/7
Re: Obviously broken queue system.

"You are receiving this mail in response to the help petition which you submitted regarding the queuing system.

We have investigated your report and can confirm that this is working correctly, with no associated bugs. If you feel this could be improved please discuss it further in our suggestion forums."

Now, my guess is this is happening because people are in queue and then go afk for some reason, in which case the game gives them 2 minutes to enter and their "spot" in the BG is reserved for them, so it opens up again if the player does not enter and invites the next one in queue who in turn has to enter in 2 minutes etc.
So again my guess is that they should lower the time the BG reserves your spot and you press enter.
How hard can it be?
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Old May 17, 2008, 05:15 PM   #6 (permalink)

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US PvE

Re: Obviously broken queue system.

I would assume people are AFKing while queue'd. Horde do have some pretty awful queue times, which I would AFK through to tab out and wait if it were me on the horde. My battlegroup (stormstrike) doesn't have this problem much. Maybe 1 out of every 20 games I play will the horde be short players, but they usually fill out 30-45 seconds after the game starts.
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Old May 17, 2008, 06:26 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Theleb
70 Human Warlock
Shadowsong Euro PvE
Guild: Original
Talent Spec: 0/46/15
Re: Obviously broken queue system.

Cyclone - if you queue with 5 or more people then the queues seem to stop working althogether, so you end up trying to join 3 BG's at once, in the hope that once you get into ANY of them, the one you actually wanted will pop.

Premades on Alliance side are down about 80% because you just can't convince Blizzard there's a problem with the system.
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Old May 17, 2008, 10:38 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Elricc
80 Human Warlock
Nagrand Oceania PvE
Guild: The Silver Hand
Talent Spec: Destro
Re: Obviously broken queue system.

First let me give an idea of what can & i'm sure does happen. When most players sign up for Battleground they click "first available". premades go against premades if they join as a group. If the individual players join a Battleground 2 ahead or so of where the que is, but not as a group, at the time they go into the same Battleground so its effectively a premade but just not signed up as 1-they still use vent,have the same planning,tactics etc. A previous guild did this so I know it worked-its not 100% guarenteed but it works enough to be effective
1 thing i always did-because of what used to happen with premades-is join more than 1 Battleground-AV,AB & Eots. When 1 pops i join that (we used to have 45 minute ques for AV & could do 2 ABs or more whilst still in the que for AV) but now with the rate at which the Battlegrounds pop it doesn't seem to be needed. What can happen & i generally sign up for 2 Battlegrounds at the same time is 1 pops & i join,whilst waiting for the Battleground to start the other pops so i check how many from which realms are in the Battleground-if 90% of the opposite side are from 1 realm (see paragraph 1)then i join the other Battleground in the hope of a fairer fight. whilst i'm in the first Battleground & the second has poped the timer is still running for the second Battleground but i haven't joined the second I am effectively part of 2 Battlegrounds but only show on 1 until i "hide" from the second or join the second & leave the first. This is complcated but thats a possible reason why the Battlegrounds fill up just after the start
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Old May 18, 2008, 02:00 AM   #9 (permalink)

Re: Obviously broken queue system.

you made this sound complicated
my battlegroup is Ruin and sometimes we start out with only 50% people.
the reason is many players queue in AV and another battleground.
the queue time for AV is <1 min, and the other one is usually >3 or 4 mins.
so we join AV, get the mana biscuits, HS, and buff, and kill Bal for the 63 honors. usually the other bg pops up before we kill bal, so we hide it and wait. therefore we always join the other bg right before the timer ends, which means the bg almost starts or has started.
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Old May 18, 2008, 12:30 PM   #10 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Nagrand Oceania PvE
Guild: The Silver Hand
Talent Spec: Destro
Re: Obviously broken queue system.

Yep i'm a complicated person lol
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