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Old June 09, 2008, 02:11 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Gwarlock
55 Human Warlock
Alterac Mountains US PvP
Guild: Summoning Winds

Maybe I am missing something...

Okay. If I dot someone up they usually can dispell, or cloak out of it. If I have 2 or 3 dots on me, it affects me badly.

A rogue or mage can 100% get out of all my dots in 1 spell. I can only dispell 1 every 24 seconds.

Also, I have no escape tactics, except for LoS. Mages can blink, rogues can cloak. What am I missing here?
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Old June 09, 2008, 05:20 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Theleb
70 Human Warlock
Shadowsong Euro PvE
Guild: Original
Talent Spec: 0/46/15
Re: Maybe I am missing something...

Nothing.

Except Felhunter Self-devour, Shadow Ward and Spellstones and Healthstones/Drain Life/Siphon Life on everything you can possibly see to get some decent health returns.

We have more ways of dealing with DoTs than most - but not in the "total removal" sense of CloS/Iceblock/Bubble etc
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Old June 10, 2008, 01:43 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Gwarlock
55 Human Warlock
Alterac Mountains US PvP
Guild: Summoning Winds

Re: Maybe I am missing something...

Hey sorry for the confusing post. It was only a half train of thought, hah. Anyways, I learned that you wait to deathcoil and rogue after he uses CloS, and Spellstones are used for the anti Spriest.

But cheatdeath screwed me out of an arena win today. He was at 2%, I was around 13%. Cheat death procced, and I died. It sucked!
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Old June 10, 2008, 01:57 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Gallrock
80 Orc Warlock
Galakrond US PvE
PvP
Guild: Born of Ashes
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Maybe I am missing something...

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and Spellstones are used for the anti Spriest.
Don't forget Shadow Ward - Spell - World of Warcraft
Also handy against other locks
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Old June 10, 2008, 03:14 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Risotto
80 Gnome Warlock
Perenolde US PvE
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/20/51
Re: Maybe I am missing something...

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Hey sorry for the confusing post. It was only a half train of thought, hah. Anyways, I learned that you wait to deathcoil and rogue after he uses CloS, and Spellstones are used for the anti Spriest.

But cheatdeath screwed me out of an arena win today. He was at 2%, I was around 13%. Cheat death procced, and I died. It sucked!
I feel your pain, though i have been in worse...30%, 35%.

But it seems to me every single rogue is spec that way, so expect to see more of it in the future.
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Old June 10, 2008, 03:56 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Hey sorry for the confusing post. It was only a half train of thought, hah. Anyways, I learned that you wait to deathcoil and rogue after he uses CloS, and Spellstones are used for the anti Spriest.

But cheatdeath screwed me out of an arena win today. He was at 2%, I was around 13%. Cheat death procced, and I died. It sucked!

Can't tell you how many times I've seen a rogue win a duel or an arena because of cheat death.

IMO, they should at least have to activate it themselves...having it do it automatically for them takes no skill and it would really differentiate between the good and bad rogues, making them easier to kill.
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Old June 10, 2008, 07:59 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Seton
Human Warlock
Arygos US PvE
Talent Spec: 53/13/0
Re: Maybe I am missing something...

From los wiki:

"In Patch 2.3, the chances of avoiding damage were increased to 33/66/100% from 10/20/30%."

..Wait. What?
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Old June 10, 2008, 08:27 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Theleb
70 Human Warlock
Shadowsong Euro PvE
Guild: Original
Talent Spec: 0/46/15
Re: Maybe I am missing something...

Aye. I play a rogue, my 2v2 Partner on my Shaman is a rogue....and I'd still say considering how effective it is, and its free...its OP'd. An associated cost and less effectiveness would level the playing field a little...
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Old June 10, 2008, 09:25 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Eterud
80 Human Warlock
Defias Brotherhood Euro RP PvP
Guild: The Tempered Sun

Re: Maybe I am missing something...

just a few words:
-Spellstone
-shadow ward
-Devour magic

all you'll ever need.

if you wish to win from rogue's?
simple!
spec 5/5/51

it is the hardest spec to learn,
but by far the most overpowered spec if you play it good.
just got back to pvping a bit so tried it out in Battleground's and an 1 vs 3-4 aint a prob at all with that spec ;)

try that with sl/sl and you'd die insta vs those 3-4 people.
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Old June 10, 2008, 09:55 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Themorrigan
70 Human Warlock
Kil'Jaeden US PvP
Guild: The Collective
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/0/0
Re: Maybe I am missing something...

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From los wiki:

"In Patch 2.3, the chances of avoiding damage were increased to 33/66/100% from 10/20/30%."

..Wait. What?
It also used to have no cooldown, so you could get back-to-back-to-back-to-(well you get the point) Cheat Death procs and take 0 damage if the RNG happened to favor you.
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