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June 22, 2008, 03:02 AM
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Doing something horribly wrong...
Hi all, Im sl/sl (466 res, bout 12.4k health, 1021 spell damage) and i've broken into the 1600's once  . I thought this was just cuz i lack the time/skills to dedicate myself, but after reading forums and stuff i've seen that playing sl/sl good is difficult.. but as one post said... 'you could be braindead and still own as sl/sl'. I know theres a bunch of topics about how to play sl/sl and ive read them... but whenever i try to do stuff it never turns out right. For example, locking down a healer during a match or getting my dots on everything. It seems very difficult for me to do everything at once. Maybe some of you leet pvpers can tell me the order and priority of stuff. Should i be getting dots on everything first? or fearing someone first? How do i recycle dots and still get off that clutch fear that interrupts a heal to win the game, etc. Maybe im trying to do too much.... but any suggestions wud be greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
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June 22, 2008, 03:31 AM
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Themorrigan 70 Human Warlock Kil'Jaeden US PvP Guild: The Collective Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/0/0 |
Re: Doing something horribly wrong...
According to your armory you 1) aren't SL/SL - You really should have an optimal PvP spec if you're inexperienced 2) have a total of 22 games played between all the brackets - Which makes it seem like you haven't really spent a lot of time just trying to figure things out for yourself. Have you been on other teams previously? To set up a kill, you (obviously) have to get someone low. Assuming DPS/Healer, there's a few ways to do this: - Deal heavy burst damage to the target - CC the healer - Spell Lock the healer - Draw the target out of LoS of the healer (obviously this only works if your target is the DPS) After getting someone low, it is again these same things that will score a kill, and then problem is that whatever you used to get someone low probably can't be used all the way to the kill because of diminishing returns and cooldowns. Doing one of these alone isn't going to kill someone, and burst damage is (mostly) out unless you can hack the RNG and get some clutch back-to-back Nightfall procs. You need to chain together two or three of these things to get someone dead. For example, Warrior/Paladin. Paladin relies on LoS to heal, and can't heal on the run. Warrior goes on you, you DoT him up, CoT the Paladin, and then run around a corner. This means the Warrior is taking damage and the Paladin has to run into LoS to heal him - and he can't heal while he's moving. Once the Paladin is in LoS (Warrior still hasn't gotten any heals), you hit the Paladin with a Fear, and go back to nuking the Warrior. If the Paladin trinkets, doesn't bubble, and starts to heal, you hit him with a Spell Lock and finish off the Warrior. If he bubbles you try and survive until that's over, all the while continuing to drag the Warrior out of his LoS, and then repeat the CC. Now the scenario I describe above is without a partner, and depending what class your partner is, as they'll be doing something to help you (a Rogue will be stunning the Warrior to allow you to cast more freely, a healer will be healing you and CCing/interrupting/etc the Paladin). Last edited by doogless; June 22, 2008 at 04:55 AM.. |
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June 22, 2008, 04:03 AM
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Re: Doing something horribly wrong...
Yep, as doogless said, that ain't SL/SL, and belive me, the soul link part of SL/SL is fundamental, if you are interested, i am right now in a classic SL/SL build, and Themorrigan (doogless) is in an interesitng variation, how is improved health funnel working for you doogless? Anyway, a good keybinding and use of focus can help a lot, to learn about it go to the Movement, Hotkeys, Keybinds, Click and Control (for version 2.4) - The Warlocks Den Forums thread, very good guide, and to see the focus and UI interface part, follow the links i put there. Also, if you are clueless of how to play, a video might help, there's one thread on PvP instructional videos request for all specs - The Warlocks Den Forums Anything else you may need, feel free to ask.
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June 22, 2008, 04:52 AM
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Themorrigan 70 Human Warlock Kil'Jaeden US PvP Guild: The Collective Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/0/0 |
Re: Doing something horribly wrong...
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When I spec for double DPS I drop Imp Health Funnel. |
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June 22, 2008, 03:56 PM
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Banatu 80 Blood Elf Rogue Kel'Thuzad US PvP Guild: Massacre Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 41/5/25 |
Re: Doing something horribly wrong...
My spare points usually go into Improved Voidwalker, the extra 1k damage soak on the shield every time I run out of the gates helps a lot more than a cheaper health funnel/3% mana.
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June 22, 2008, 04:32 PM
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Yawg 70 Gnome Warlock Staghelm US PvE Guild: Knights of the Rose Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 40/0/21 |
Re: Doing something horribly wrong...
you should be able to solo 2s teams below 1600 if you are SL/SL. Its not to bad, to start: dot, dot, dot, tab, dot, dot, dot, fear tab reaply dots or cast immolate or SB depending on where your at at that point. Rinse and repeat until they are dead. Just don;t forget you have a healthstone and drain life can be huge if needed. |
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June 22, 2008, 06:33 PM
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Re: Doing something horribly wrong...
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Then again, maybe my BG is wierd and we do suck because its not uncommon to find people with S3 weapons at any post 1500 raiting.
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June 22, 2008, 06:45 PM
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Purebalance 80 Human Warlock Muradin US PvE Guild: Shadowraven Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/50/21 |
Re: Doing something horribly wrong...
Yeah I pvp as 21/40 and I laugh at any SL/SL lock who approaches me in bg's or arena. I get SOOOOOOOOOOOO lucky with nether prots it's not even funny. And if I have nether prot when backlash procs, the felpuppy can't eat in time. My only problem is getting a little too jumpy on blowing trinket as nether prot sometimes pops when I least expect it and I'm immune to fear then and preemptively hit the trinket. SL/SL is more about a balance between damage and survival than anything and 2v2 is more about kill kill kill. |
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June 22, 2008, 08:59 PM
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Re: Doing something horribly wrong...
My bad... thought about saying that i currently had a shity spec i made up for fun, but i thought armory only reset on tuesdays so didn't think it was an issue. I am normally 27/34 (no demonic resilience/ mana feed) but gives a few extra points for affliction. Should have clarified this... but again, i didn't think that would show up on the armory. oh yea, and i bounce around a lot from team to team trying to get games in and trying different setups... ive gotten in a helluva lot more than 22 games, but none of the teams seems to work for me. I'm currently trying it with a resto druid, which is kinda fun, but made me have another question... what spells do i use 'burst' when someone's low on hp? *** Information added 16 Minutes and 23 Seconds later... *** Quote:
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June 22, 2008, 09:22 PM
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Re: Doing something horribly wrong...
SL/SL Burst? Immolate and Searing Pain spam is the best you'll get unless you have a lucky Nightfall proc....that was the biggest thing I missed when running it - lack of burst compared to my usual Felguard spec. Also regarding something El Tankeh said: Quote:
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