Haste in Arena

QuiSiLoR · July 06, 2008, 01:47 PM

I was wondering if anyone uses or has views on haste in Arena with S4.

They are 2 Haste Rings :-

Guardian's Band of Dominance - Item - World of Warcraft
Guardian's Band of Subjugation - Item - World of Warcraft

Haste Neck

Guardian's Pendant of Reprieve - Item - World of Warcraft

I was considering these items, as it stands I have 1250 Spell damage, 13.5k HP and 480 Resilience. I was wondering it was worth it, for the slightly faster mana drain, SB and the like ? or if it would just be a waste on time.

doogless · July 06, 2008, 02:50 PM

You linked the wrong neck, that's the healer one.

You want Guardian's Pendant of Subjugation - Item - World of Warcraft

I have like 70 haste in my normal gear, I don't really notice it. I also have a couple extra items I can switch in to get up to 143 haste, but haven't really had an opportunity to try them yet.

neej · July 06, 2008, 03:22 PM

I will reach 150 haste (with some epic re-gemming, and S4 rings) in about a week, currently at 115. I can guarantee you that it helps me a lot personally actually right now.

Mana drains can't be increased BUT with haste.

It's also possible to even feel 70 hast in my opinion.

doogless · July 06, 2008, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neej

I will reach 150 haste (with some epic re-gemming, and S4 rings) in about a week, currently at 115. I can guarantee you that it helps me a lot personally actually right now.

Mana drains can't be increased BUT with haste.

It's also possible to even feel 70 hast in my opinion.

Yeah I don't doubt it has an effect, I'm just too oblivious to notice the difference. I'm definitely not in the camp that says "haste is useless unless you stack 200+ of it," I'm just saying I personally can't tell.

Gritz · July 07, 2008, 09:24 AM

I only notice it when I go from my standard PvP set (25 Haste) to my Haste PvP set (126 Haste). I think I'm going to stack up to about 150ish (10% casting time reduction) then go back to Spell Damage. Those 1.2s Fears are awesome.

neej · July 08, 2008, 09:53 AM

I am at 138 or so. I think I didn't enjoy any stat more than Haste. Mana drains are faster, and actually haste increases range for fleeing targets (sounds weird, but it is true).
I still have my non-haste S3 items in the back and changed yesterday. Even it's merely 10%, it felt like a different game to me, I might be oversensitive though :-).

Sidenote:

I made an 200ish Hatse + Quag Eye set for Alterac Valley Seed of Corruption duty. It's heaps and heaps of fun.

fearstorm · July 14, 2008, 01:36 PM

Dude, spell haste is pure win. At first it seemed nerf, but once you hit 100+ haste it's definately noticeable. Even small things make a difference, like a 5 second summon, caught two teams off guard and I managed to summon a voidwalker twice in one arena battle with their melee being 0.1 second away mashing kick :P

neej · July 18, 2008, 05:58 AM

2.2 Seconds Shadow Bolts(FG) or Incinerates are very helpful for nuking people down.

Ciboire · July 18, 2008, 07:09 AM

ya In PvP, my fear is at 1.21 shadobolt 2.32 and incinerate 2.09. Considering rogues having a GC of 1 sec, each 1% haste mean 2% less time for them to kick my fear, or my searing pain/immolate if they don't wait for the kick, and if they wait ==> less damage taken.

ooksooks · July 25, 2008, 12:08 AM

I have to agree that it starts to become noticeable when you get over 100+. In arenas I just keep it such that my fears are at 1.2 secs and it's great to win a fear off against another lock.

In BGs like AV I try and stack as much as possible as it seems to make it easier to dot up more of the opposition, which in turn propels me up the healing charts from all the SLs.

I was surprised in an AB game which was not going so well to hear a complaint to the healers from another player saying that a lock (me) was the current top heals.

As a sidenote in PVE you need to stack a bit more of haste than 100 as I had to sacrifice crit for more haste and it actullay lead to a decrease of my dps. (This is in the standard destruct raiding build)

July 06, 2008, 01:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
QuiSiLoR Member	Haste in Arena I was wondering if anyone uses or has views on haste in Arena with S4. They are 2 Haste Rings :- Guardian's Band of Dominance - Item - World of Warcraft Guardian's Band of Subjugation - Item - World of Warcraft Haste Neck Guardian's Pendant of Reprieve - Item - World of Warcraft I was considering these items, as it stands I have 1250 Spell damage, 13.5k HP and 480 Resilience. I was wondering it was worth it, for the slightly faster mana drain, SB and the like ? or if it would just be a waste on time.

July 06, 2008, 02:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
doogless Member Character Info Themorrigan 70 Human Warlock Kil'Jaeden US PvP Guild: The Collective Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/0/0	Re: Haste in Arena You linked the wrong neck, that's the healer one. You want Guardian's Pendant of Subjugation - Item - World of Warcraft I have like 70 haste in my normal gear, I don't really notice it. I also have a couple extra items I can switch in to get up to 143 haste, but haven't really had an opportunity to try them yet. Last edited by doogless; July 06, 2008 at 02:53 PM.

July 06, 2008, 03:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
neej Member	Re: Haste in Arena I will reach 150 haste (with some epic re-gemming, and S4 rings) in about a week, currently at 115. I can guarantee you that it helps me a lot personally actually right now. Mana drains can't be increased BUT with haste. It's also possible to even feel 70 hast in my opinion.

July 07, 2008, 09:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
Gritz NOT IN THE FACE!!!! Character Info Gritz 70 Orc Warlock Eldre'Thalas US PvE Guild: Fate Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 24/37/0	Re: Haste in Arena I only notice it when I go from my standard PvP set (25 Haste) to my Haste PvP set (126 Haste). I think I'm going to stack up to about 150ish (10% casting time reduction) then go back to Spell Damage. Those 1.2s Fears are awesome.

July 08, 2008, 09:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
neej Member	Re: Haste in Arena I am at 138 or so. I think I didn't enjoy any stat more than Haste. Mana drains are faster, and actually haste increases range for fleeing targets (sounds weird, but it is true). I still have my non-haste S3 items in the back and changed yesterday. Even it's merely 10%, it felt like a different game to me, I might be oversensitive though :-). Sidenote: I made an 200ish Hatse + Quag Eye set for Alterac Valley Seed of Corruption duty. It's heaps and heaps of fun.

July 14, 2008, 01:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
fearstorm Lurker	Re: Haste in Arena Dude, spell haste is pure win. At first it seemed nerf, but once you hit 100+ haste it's definately noticeable. Even small things make a difference, like a 5 second summon, caught two teams off guard and I managed to summon a voidwalker twice in one arena battle with their melee being 0.1 second away mashing kick :P

July 18, 2008, 05:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
neej Member	Re: Haste in Arena 2.2 Seconds Shadow Bolts(FG) or Incinerates are very helpful for nuking people down.

July 18, 2008, 07:09 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ciboire Member Character Info Ciboire 70 Orc Warlock Gorganash US PvP Guild: Horde Nation Talent Spec: 40/0/21	Re: Haste in Arena ya In PvP, my fear is at 1.21 shadobolt 2.32 and incinerate 2.09. Considering rogues having a GC of 1 sec, each 1% haste mean 2% less time for them to kick my fear, or my searing pain/immolate if they don't wait for the kick, and if they wait ==> less damage taken.

July 25, 2008, 12:08 AM	#10 (permalink)
ooksooks Lurker Character Info Norser 70 Undead Warlock Earthen Ring US RP Guild: Alea Iacta Est Profile: Blizzard Armory	Re: Haste in Arena I have to agree that it starts to become noticeable when you get over 100+. In arenas I just keep it such that my fears are at 1.2 secs and it's great to win a fear off against another lock. In BGs like AV I try and stack as much as possible as it seems to make it easier to dot up more of the opposition, which in turn propels me up the healing charts from all the SLs. I was surprised in an AB game which was not going so well to hear a complaint to the healers from another player saying that a lock (me) was the current top heals. As a sidenote in PVE you need to stack a bit more of haste than 100 as I had to sacrifice crit for more haste and it actullay lead to a decrease of my dps. (This is in the standard destruct raiding build)