Spell Haste vs. Spell Damage gems

Katczinsky · July 10, 2008, 03:59 PM

Assuming I am resil capped, what spell damage should I have before I start gemming for spell haste? I would be running with a UA/Shadowburn build.

fireblood · July 10, 2008, 04:11 PM

I have started to stack what i can as an experiment was hoping to help with fear and health/mana drain. What ever way you try something is sacrificed, I've less resil and damage, finding a balance could be a job.
If we can keep from being mashed by rogues with faster fears we can afford a lot less damage and stam.
And back to the question 1200 should be good i think

Theleb · July 10, 2008, 04:15 PM

I don't think there's a certain point at which you can justifiably say "you can now go haste" in PvP as there is with PvE - certainly not with a UA build because you don't have the SL to mitigate that extra damage which might allow SL/SL to sacrifice a little in sta/res/damage for a reasonable amount of haste.

I guess the question I would be asking is simply how much haste it would require to get .1 off my fear time, and what I would have to sacrfice to achieve that.

Mazmorgul · July 11, 2008, 03:01 AM

Quick question on the side (kinda related) but does spell haste speed up DoTs? I know it reduces the GCD and speeds up channelling spells but I can't find any information about DoTs.

I've been grinding BGs for honor gear and the only decision I have left to make is whether to take the S4 haste neck or the straight spell damage one.

I already have the S2+3 spell damage rings and the S3 haste ring so that's a no-cost swap.

Theleb · July 11, 2008, 03:21 AM

No, the intervals between ticks remain the same. Try searching for haste - there's a lot of info.

texasjay99233 · July 14, 2008, 10:32 AM

i have 88 haste, and i absolutely love it. i now can kite 2 rogues(both shs), or warrior/rogue, or warrior /druid.
1.24 sec fear helps me a ton.

Redmage · July 14, 2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by texasjay99233

i have 88 haste, and i absolutely love it. i now can kite 2 rogues(both shs), or warrior/rogue, or warrior /druid.
1.24 sec fear helps me a ton.

Can you please elaborate how 0.06 Sec improvement in fear casting aids you in kiting 2 rogues? Thanks.

fearstorm · July 15, 2008, 05:47 AM

Dude, I just went up to 110ish haste for a 1.21 second Fear. The difference is night and day; against druid / rogue teams where the rogue would otherwise tear me to shreds, I was able to get fear after fear off, dropping their damage output into the basement and running us the match.

It doesn't seem like that 0.09 should make such a huge difference but it seems to

July 10, 2008, 03:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
Katczinsky Registered Character Info Katczinsky 70 Blood Elf Warlock The Venture Co. US RP PvP Guild: Glory Profile: Blizzard Armory	Spell Haste vs. Spell Damage gems Assuming I am resil capped, what spell damage should I have before I start gemming for spell haste? I would be running with a UA/Shadowburn build.

July 10, 2008, 04:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
fireblood Member Character Info bloodx 70 Human Warlock Arathor Euro PvE Profile: Blizzard Armory	Re: SH vs. SD gems I have started to stack what i can as an experiment was hoping to help with fear and health/mana drain. What ever way you try something is sacrificed, I've less resil and damage, finding a balance could be a job. If we can keep from being mashed by rogues with faster fears we can afford a lot less damage and stam. And back to the question 1200 should be good i think Last edited by fireblood; July 10, 2008 at 04:14 PM.

July 10, 2008, 04:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
Theleb Moderator Character Info Theleb 70 Human Warlock Shadowsong Euro PvE Guild: Original Talent Spec: 0/46/15	Re: SH vs. SD gems I don't think there's a certain point at which you can justifiably say "you can now go haste" in PvP as there is with PvE - certainly not with a UA build because you don't have the SL to mitigate that extra damage which might allow SL/SL to sacrifice a little in sta/res/damage for a reasonable amount of haste. I guess the question I would be asking is simply how much haste it would require to get .1 off my fear time, and what I would have to sacrfice to achieve that.

July 11, 2008, 03:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mazmorgul Member Character Info Mazmorgul 70 Gnome Warlock Jaedenar Euro PvP Guild: The Answer Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 24/37/0	Re: SH vs. SD gems Quick question on the side (kinda related) but does spell haste speed up DoTs? I know it reduces the GCD and speeds up channelling spells but I can't find any information about DoTs. I've been grinding BGs for honor gear and the only decision I have left to make is whether to take the S4 haste neck or the straight spell damage one. I already have the S2+3 spell damage rings and the S3 haste ring so that's a no-cost swap.

July 11, 2008, 03:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
Theleb Moderator Character Info Theleb 70 Human Warlock Shadowsong Euro PvE Guild: Original Talent Spec: 0/46/15	Re: SH vs. SD gems No, the intervals between ticks remain the same. Try searching for haste - there's a lot of info.

July 14, 2008, 10:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
texasjay99233 Lurker	Re: Spell Haste vs. Spell Damage gems i have 88 haste, and i absolutely love it. i now can kite 2 rogues(both shs), or warrior/rogue, or warrior /druid. 1.24 sec fear helps me a ton.

July 15, 2008, 05:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
fearstorm Lurker	Re: Spell Haste vs. Spell Damage gems Dude, I just went up to 110ish haste for a 1.21 second Fear. The difference is night and day; against druid / rogue teams where the rogue would otherwise tear me to shreds, I was able to get fear after fear off, dropping their damage output into the basement and running us the match. It doesn't seem like that 0.09 should make such a huge difference but it seems to