New Patch and BG's

ShY · July 15, 2008, 07:18 PM

Now that the new patch is out can someone explain the change to demonic sacrifice for BG's? I stay destro for most of the week for raiding/instancing. I only respec SL/SL on sunday and i stay till monday night. The problem is I like doing BG's as destro. I can go nuke people while getting health back from demonic sacrificing my VW.

Ever since the patch no matter what I tried i would get my useless imp everytime I respawn in BG. I tried having my VW out before i joined a BG and iv tried summoning my VW after iv respawned in a BG but i still keep getting that useless imp every respawn. Is there anyway around this? Or am i forced to go through shards every respawn since im definately not going to respec everyday for a PVP spec.

Vendi · July 15, 2008, 08:15 PM

Warlocks: Demonic Sacrifice: This ability will now interact correctly with the Spirit Guide resurrection system in battlegrounds. A sacrificed pet will not be resummoned on death. Warlocks will still be able to resurrect with the pet they last summoned (non-sacrificed pets), even if it has since died.

Somewhere in the patch notes.
So pretty much it was an intentional change, although the reasoning behind it seems... nonexistent. On the WoW forums some presented it as happening because when you are in PvE and sac your pet, you are gonna have to use a soulshard if you want a new one/new sac. Its pretty bad logic, I know. The worst part is that it exacerbates the current problem of shard usage (and being forced to leave BG's to farm shards) in battlegrounds.

Personally I think its because blizzard wants all warlocks to play cookie cutter SL/SL spec's. Oh and because PvE spec's are obviously too overpowered in PvP.
I feel your pain. I'm 67 now, looking forward to doing a lot of PvP at 70, and have heard plenty about how bad the shard situation currently is. Hell, i've dealt with it in my own pvp experiences in outlands (Towers/that-town-in-nagrand/etc) literally emptying out my 16 slot shard bag. Makes me sad we are going in the wrong direction on this one

Rleab · July 15, 2008, 08:43 PM

/tinfoil hat on, They've gotten so used to hitting the nerf button in relation to warlocks that they had to balance out the buff to our curse of elements, /tinfoil hat off.

Pure Balance · July 16, 2008, 10:07 AM

I pvp as raid spec and actually just either keep a succy or a felhunter out. Having either of those actually outweighs sac'ing even if you're spec'd for it because if you find yourself in a 1 on 1 fight you can use your succy to chain seduce sb spam to where your opponent is lucky to get 2 attacks off on you and if they turn on the succy you're busy finishing him/her off anyway so bad move on their part.

Gritz · July 16, 2008, 12:50 PM

Anytime I hear a pet being sacrificed in the start of a BG, I die a little inside.

Please, FTLOG, learn how to use your pets in PvP if you plan on entering a BG and not being dead weight.

July 15, 2008, 07:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
ShY Registered	New Patch and BG's Now that the new patch is out can someone explain the change to demonic sacrifice for BG's? I stay destro for most of the week for raiding/instancing. I only respec SL/SL on sunday and i stay till monday night. The problem is I like doing BG's as destro. I can go nuke people while getting health back from demonic sacrificing my VW. Ever since the patch no matter what I tried i would get my useless imp everytime I respawn in BG. I tried having my VW out before i joined a BG and iv tried summoning my VW after iv respawned in a BG but i still keep getting that useless imp every respawn. Is there anyway around this? Or am i forced to go through shards every respawn since im definately not going to respec everyday for a PVP spec.

July 15, 2008, 08:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Vendi Registered Character Info Aison Gnome Warlock US	Re: New Patch and BG's Warlocks: Demonic Sacrifice: This ability will now interact correctly with the Spirit Guide resurrection system in battlegrounds. A sacrificed pet will not be resummoned on death. Warlocks will still be able to resurrect with the pet they last summoned (non-sacrificed pets), even if it has since died. Somewhere in the patch notes. So pretty much it was an intentional change, although the reasoning behind it seems... nonexistent. On the WoW forums some presented it as happening because when you are in PvE and sac your pet, you are gonna have to use a soulshard if you want a new one/new sac. Its pretty bad logic, I know. The worst part is that it exacerbates the current problem of shard usage (and being forced to leave BG's to farm shards) in battlegrounds. Personally I think its because blizzard wants all warlocks to play cookie cutter SL/SL spec's. Oh and because PvE spec's are obviously too overpowered in PvP. I feel your pain. I'm 67 now, looking forward to doing a lot of PvP at 70, and have heard plenty about how bad the shard situation currently is. Hell, i've dealt with it in my own pvp experiences in outlands (Towers/that-town-in-nagrand/etc) literally emptying out my 16 slot shard bag. Makes me sad we are going in the wrong direction on this one

July 15, 2008, 08:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rleab Member Character Info Rleab 70 Warlock US PvE	Re: New Patch and BG's /tinfoil hat on, They've gotten so used to hitting the nerf button in relation to warlocks that they had to balance out the buff to our curse of elements, /tinfoil hat off.

July 16, 2008, 10:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
Pure Balance Member Character Info Purebalance 70 Human Warlock Muradin US PvE Guild: Shadowraven Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/21/40	Re: New Patch and BG's I pvp as raid spec and actually just either keep a succy or a felhunter out. Having either of those actually outweighs sac'ing even if you're spec'd for it because if you find yourself in a 1 on 1 fight you can use your succy to chain seduce sb spam to where your opponent is lucky to get 2 attacks off on you and if they turn on the succy you're busy finishing him/her off anyway so bad move on their part.

July 16, 2008, 12:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
Gritz NOT IN THE FACE!!!! Character Info Gritz 70 Orc Warlock Eldre'Thalas US PvE Guild: Fate Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 24/37/0	Re: New Patch and BG's Anytime I hear a pet being sacrificed in the start of a BG, I die a little inside. Please, FTLOG, learn how to use your pets in PvP if you plan on entering a BG and not being dead weight.