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October 20, 2008, 10:32 AM
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Ammit 80 Gnome Warlock Ravencrest US PvE Guild: FIRESTORM Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/56/15 |
51+ Demonology in 2v2 Arenas?
So, pre-3.0.2 I was using sl/sl with a holy pally friend of mine for 2v2 arenas and we did pretty well! Since the patch we have yet to step into arenas and will be doing so tonight. I know a lot of people are pushing affliction as our superior setup at the moment, but so far I've been loving my 51+ demonology build for everything else and was thinking of sticking with it for these 2s. Has anyone out there done 2v2s as full demo yet, and how'd it go if you did? Would also be curious the class and build of your partner as well... (Looking for actual experience if possible... I can theorize all the ways it's going to be rough myself.  )Edit: For that matter, any arena experience using 51+ demo would be great to hear about, even though 2v2 is what I'm aiming for at the moment. Thanks!! Last edited by Ammit; October 20, 2008 at 11:59 AM.. |
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October 20, 2008, 10:46 AM
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Infernally 70 Gnome Warlock Alexstrasza US PvE Guild: Dragon Army Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 56/0/5 |
Re: 51+ Demonology in 2v2 Arenas?
i'm 5/51/5 right now. i'm loving it in BG's. i've only done a few arena matches with it (arena is kind of buggy for me atm) but so far it's looking pretty good. my partner is a ret pally. i try to pop Meta when my opponents are near each other for full affect of the aura. Aura + dots + drain life + ret pally = a deadly good time 
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October 21, 2008, 12:51 PM
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Ammit 80 Gnome Warlock Ravencrest US PvE Guild: FIRESTORM Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/56/15 |
Re: 51+ Demonology in 2v2 Arenas?
Just wanted to follow up my own post here now that I've gotten some games under my belt with this. Have to say, lag was the biggest story of the night by far. At one point I was at 2600+ ms lag! And most of the time was over 1000 ms. Lag cost us at least 1 game where I was stuck mid cast for a good 3 - 5 seconds and getting pummeled that whole time. I understand this is a game-wide (or at least arena-wide) issue at the moment and hopefully it will be corrected asap. Anyway, on to the point - overall we actually did pretty well for as much lag as was happening. I believe we went 7 and 3 when the dust settled. Again, my partner was a holy pally. My observations of the night: - balance druids at the moment are just about as scary as ret pallies! He took me from over 2/3 full hp and felguard still up so soul link was active, down to nothing in no time at all. With my partner down and I was focused on his, he just spammed wrath and moonfire and I was done. (it happened so fast I'm pretty sure that's what he was doing... I didn't look at the log..was too mad) - on more than one occasion meta allowed me to burn someone down really fast. Resto shaman in one went down so fast I almost felt sorry for him... I felt like a pally for a second there.  Worked just as well on mage once I had his elemental banished. The method was this - pop demonic empowerment for felguard and had him charge/stun, just before his stun was up, pop meta and charge as soon as fg's stun was up, pop my meta aura, dot, dot, drain life while fg continued to beat on him. Most people this worked well on were down by then, but on one I needed to fear him once after and then redotted and drained while still in meta and he was done. (Gotta be sure to stay in close whenever possible to get the full benefit of the aura - that's the best part of meta by far!)- dual locks in 2s is also scary... went against a full demo lock with full affliction lock partner... they focused my partner and made short work of him and I could only handle 2 drain lifes (one being in meta), 2 fears, dots, a felguard, and being spell locked for so long before I was face up in the dirt... Almost made me want to try 2s with another lock to see how it would go for us. - I wasn't CC'ed into oblivion while in meta as I was worried I would be. I tried to time my stuns between felguard and myself right and more often than not the target ended up being more worried about all the health he was losing than trying to CC me. Saving Deathcoil specifically for when you see that pally's cast bar ramping up with Turn Evil really helped against them as well. Followed the deathcoil with a fear and by that time he'd given up on Turn Evil. This scenario would obviously change drastically if he had their Glyph of Turn Evil making it instant cast. All in all, I was highly encouraged, and not at all discouraged with full demo in 2v2 as I feared I might be. And quite frankly, I'm having more fun being full demo than I've had in a very long time.
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October 21, 2008, 04:37 PM
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Re: 51+ Demonology in 2v2 Arenas?
Slightly offtopic, but yesterday my usual pala partner (whose account i haxxored and respecced retri) and I strated to try to do some arenas to actually win. At the beggining i was haunt specc, after a couple of matches i decided to go UA/SL because the burst as haunt is poor and i usually didnt had the time to put all the dots up, worked very well and my duty essentially was to kite while instadotting, trow UA on burst target and CC the other, while using defensive dispells, maybe meta will be even better but i am somewhat reclutant to let go my defesnive dispell, though i can see the benefit of meta+paladin burst. Anyway, we ended up in 1800 with no efforth, so much better than holy paladin - SL/SL warlock in S4.
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October 21, 2008, 05:02 PM
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Ammit 80 Gnome Warlock Ravencrest US PvE Guild: FIRESTORM Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/56/15 |
Re: 51+ Demonology in 2v2 Arenas?
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October 21, 2008, 05:13 PM
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Lessic 80 Undead Warlock Darkspear US PvP Guild: Tarren Mill Deathguard Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 56/0/15 |
Re: 51+ Demonology in 2v2 Arenas?
Well I haven't done arena yet but I am running full demo it's worked really well in bg, it really does take about 5 to kill me, and that even takes awhile lol. I also dueled a arms warrior and a ret paly and beat both... yeah they were pissed... and didn't fear spam either lol |
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October 21, 2008, 06:01 PM
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Re: 51+ Demonology in 2v2 Arenas?
Ahh, maybe its because my paladin has the badge weapon and retri PvP gear worth 80k honor though... Edit: But mostly its like a excellent geared S2 retri paladin gearwise. Anyway, he is loving it and if he has his cooldowns i have seen him solo 3 people easily and killing 8 in a row without going OOM, they just stoppend coming, he also won a 2v1 match at 1700 raiting O.o As for meta killing paladins, he probably didn't use his abilites against demons on you, against a good retri paladin i find any non meta spec more reliable, that is, i can run a bit longer before being killed, the reason being holy damage is not resisted in demon form and more than half of their dps is holy and they can burst you with exorsicm and fear you, and God know what else.
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October 21, 2008, 06:27 PM
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Ammit 80 Gnome Warlock Ravencrest US PvE Guild: FIRESTORM Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/56/15 |
Re: 51+ Demonology in 2v2 Arenas?
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Was just able to effectively keep him off of CC-ing me while in meta, which was one of my biggest concerns. (Again, the glyph making his turn evil instant would remedy that for him rather quickly though.) On my earlier post I just meant he gave up on trying to CC me and bubbled so I'd leave him alone that time.
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October 27, 2008, 05:30 PM
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Re: 51+ Demonology in 2v2 Arenas?
Can't see how people enjoy meta, seems a really sluggish tank and not many spells. I love to banish meta locks 
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October 27, 2008, 06:17 PM
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Vaell 80 Blood Elf Warlock Scarshield Legion Euro RP PvP Guild: The Final Contingency Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/41/30 |
Re: 51+ Demonology in 2v2 Arenas?
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Respectfully, you not being able to see why others enjoy meta isn't something you should be calling them out for. Especially not in a thread which is trying to promote constructive uses for the talent / tree. What is crucially important is that they do enjoy it for whatever reason. Meta is not for me either, but it's reasonable that we all like different things. Now, back on topic. No further derailment please.
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