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November 19, 2008, 12:13 PM

#11 (permalink)

Pernicious

Status: <Demon Trainer>

Character Info
Pernicious
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Dark Iron US PvP
Guild: Allmacht
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58

Re: Warlock vs. Warrior

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warobi

I have never been downed by a warrior, one on one, Im spec'd demo. This works every time. I put the FG on agressive or defensive, either one works. I park him about ten yards away. The warrior charges and stuns me, then the FG charges the warrior. I come out of the stun first and DC the warrior and then fear him. Dot him up, SB and refear. done! Way to simple and easy. My spec is Warobi on Hyjal.

Hey Warobi,

I see where you're going with this, and I like it. The problem I've always had with Warriors is that they always seem to be very resistant to Fears. I have had moments where I've attempted to fear a Warrior 4-5 times over the course of a battle and he resists or is immune to each and everyone of them. I know they have talents to help protect them against it, but you'd figure after a minute or two of combat they'd be vulnerable at some point.

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November 19, 2008, 12:25 PM

#12 (permalink)

Darkersoul

Character Info
Darkersoul
70 Human Warlock
Sargeras US PvP
Guild: Divergence
Talent Spec: 0/21/40

Re: Warlock vs. Warrior

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

='s pwnage of melee classes face.

Fight starts, Seduce. If warrior charges? Pop shadowfury to stun him back so his rage goes to waste, and immediately fear him. He attacks you? He is seduced as well. Pop up Curse of Agony and Immolate and keep the fears rolling. He will pop out of fear, hit him with a death coil, unless your shadow fury is back up... always use it as the "oh shit" button before popping DC. Keep immolate refreshed when target is feared. Drain life is good if you have taken any damage... but otherwise use Searing pain.

Target gets low, pop shadowfury, shadowburn, conflagrate, deathcoil, and finish off with Shadowflame (ya your new AoE instant cast). All of those are instant casts.

Destro locks rape so much face, I completely owned my 2 friends who are arms warrior and titan grip. Being a human helps as well... : ) This works on most classes of rogues (i hear Assassination still rocks us), enhance shammies, ret pallies, huntards, mages... the list goes on. Master this spec and you will truly pwn face.

Oh ya, and haste gear is your friend!!!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Warobi

I am not convinced you are going against very good warriors.

Last edited by Darkersoul; November 19, 2008 at 12:20 PM..

November 19, 2008, 02:21 PM

#13 (permalink)

Vitriola

Character Info
Vitriola
80 Human Warlock
gorgonash US PvP
Guild: Knights of Avalon
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/41/30

Re: Warlock vs. Warrior

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkersoul

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='s pwnage of melee classes face.

I assume that your zeal about this build is theoretical because:

1. It is a build for level 80 and you are level 75.
2. Your build is 52/12/0 and not the 0/19/52 this build shows.

Still, theory has its place. I just think that it is important to not confuse it with practice.

November 19, 2008, 03:20 PM	#14 (permalink)
Warobi Character Info Warobi 80 Human Warlock Hyjal US PvE Guild: Beyond Eternity Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/41/30	Re: Warlock vs. Warrior I didnt say I was invulnerable, just I have not lost to date to any warrior. I have over 21k kills in BG's and found thru trial and error that this works really well. I guess I should back up however and say that since I started useing this technique I have not ever lost to a warrior. It also works very very well against rogues. When they pop out of stealth the FG charges them and stuns them. DC and fear will do the trick, undead are harder to deal with. Whether you believe me or not , I dont really care, but do try this technique and prove it to youself. Warobi, Hyjal * Information added 1 Minutes and 24 Seconds later... * When you see they resist fear then use COE and then fear, resisted? do it again, it will eventually work. * Information added 11 Minutes and 24 Seconds later... * And as far as the level/quality of Warriors I face. Its the random players that you get in any battle ground. So do I have to prove its the very top Warror in WOW? Come on... All Im offering is a suggestion to help and my experience doing this. He ask and I did offer my opinion. You can scoff all you want but I do bet you try it. rofl

November 19, 2008, 06:28 PM

#15 (permalink)

Beredivh

Character Info
Beredivh
70 Human Warlock
forgotten coast

Re: Warlock vs. Warrior

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkfox

I apologize if this particular situation has already been discussed but I'm currently at work on my phone so searching through a few hundred threads is impossible for me.

Anywho, a friend and co-worker will not shut-up about how his Warrior with Titan-grip can beat any Warlock from any spec no matter what the situation. I would really like to shove his foot in his mouth for him but I've never really gone one-on-one with a warrior now that the new talents are available. Any suggestions on what build and strategies to use against an opponent who's wielding a pair of weapons bigger than you?

Simply, there is no conceiveable way a warrior can beat an equally geared demo lock in a duel situation. I personally have not been beaten by a warr, hunter,priest or shammy yet. But warriors are especially,erm, failboat, IMO. Warrs with bladestorm will almost invariably try to fear you and drop bs on you, bash you to half health or less in seconds. But it's really a simple matter of stepping aside, having trinketed out of fear.

I'd really recommend going demo. You should be able to deal with most classes fairly easily with this spec. Affliction locks will only beat you if they are skilled (in this case they will be sl/ua,probably) and ret pallies, well, they beat everything anyway.

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Originally Posted by Vitriola

You should know that the demon form, while extra beefy against warriors and rogues, is extra squishy to others. Other locks can banish you. Priests and pallies get cool attacks against demons.

If you do not want to respec just for warriors (and rogues), the one tip I can give is that the pet of choice for them specifically is the succubus. If you are using it against them, they cannot dispel it as it is not a magical effect. They can break out sometimes but that burns a cool down.

When they are charmed, get to MAX range and bolt them. Do not dot or the next charm will not stick as damage breaks it. Curse of exhaustion will keep them at bay until the girl's charm is ready again. You can also wait a bit before bolting them to be further through her cooldown. It might be a good time to bandage, for example. Always keep your distance. Only when they are nearly dead should you start dotting.

IHTH

Any rogue who knows what he is doing will will blind you and kill the succubus,or blind the succubus and kill you. Goodbye soul link. Rogues are also exceptional at dodging and resisting both mellee and magical attacks, and before 3.0 there was really no way any specced warlock could beat a skilled, geared rogue. However again, now with demon form, I find rogues laughable.

While other locks can banish you in demon form, this works for you as much as it does for them, because they cannot harm you while you are banished, and they cannot banish the felguard whilst you are banished either. So it's still going to be beating on them during that time. If you have the foresight to save DE until they banish you, they can't fear fg either. Moreover, you can trinket out of banish, pop IA,fear lock and burn felpuppy to death, which takes out silence and and sl.