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November 21, 2008, 11:26 PM
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iamultimo 80 Orc Warlock Barthilas US PvP Guild: Serendipity Profile: Talent Spec: 0/56/15 |
Re: Do kids pick Alliance?
Can anyone explain to me then why every bg in the last 3days has been horde winning. And its not just a win, its like we are in a premade and they are all in greens. AV is silly now because no alliance are even joining anymore. |
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November 22, 2008, 12:57 AM
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Re: Do kids pick Alliance?
It's one thing to say that the horde is the ultimate and the alliance are 100% pushovers, and I can attest to seeing dramatic wins for the alliance in fair fights. However...the perception that the horde is better doesn't come from nowhere. It's my opinion that many of the better pvp players reroll for horde, while many newer players join the alliance for aesthetic reasons. I know that *I* chose the alliance because the horde races are all unpleasant-looking. It's not about being pretty either (since male humans win no beauty contests), but about the fact that orcs and undead are all hunched and misshapen. I knew that they would look ridiculous in armor, and I care about how my character looks at least as much as I care about how good he actually is. That said, it's foolish to assume that any large group of people will fit perfectly into any standardized definition. Being alliance myself I generally think that the horde is 90% gank-crazy jerks, and the alliance is 90% morons who wouldn't know teamwork if it poked them in the eye. That view is very biased however, since I've never actually played horde before...and because I could just be in two lame alliance battlegroups. Although, for every horde I see who sneak attacks me unprovoked I see one who gives me a wave and goes on about their business. The game is mostly populated with immature jerks on both sides (ones who think chuck norris jokes are actually funny...you know who you are) with older players such as myself making up the minority. You just have to find others like yourself to play with and then you'll be happy.
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November 22, 2008, 01:24 AM
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Beredivh 70 Human Warlock forgotten coast |
Re: Do kids pick Alliance?
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Still more on the horde side, IMO--but then again, I'd refer you back to my original argument that there are more Horde players than Ally. I'm not saying that because you play a Horde Toon you are an immature Jerk, just that you are more likely to be one. What are you gonna do, you know? *shrugs* |
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November 22, 2008, 01:27 AM
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Jakome 80 Human Warlock Misha US PvE Guild: Truthiness Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/54/17 |
Re: Do kids pick Alliance?
With the caveat that there are all sorts of people on all sorts of servers...on my server, Misha, which is PVE, we (Alliance) regularly lose battlegrounds. Teamwork just doesn't happen on Ally in our Battlegroup; the only BG we don't lose 75% of the time is AV, and that's because it has a pretty set "rule book" that Alliance follows that doesn't really require teamwork all that much. (Just zerging.) Just from observing the lack of cooperation in Alliance in BGs, and reading the massive infighting and name-calling in the BG chat...I do suspect that a lot of players are young...I say this not to speak down on them, but because they seem to lack the ability to see the "bigger picture"; instead of defending what they've capped, they run off to the next fight, and leave, say, a lone squishie to defend against 3 melee Horde that know Ally well enough to know they're going to leave spots undefended. The squishie dies, and Horde cap whatever it was a moment later. Ally doesn't like to call incomings. They don't work together, and don't defend healers, or kill Horde healers. (I can't count how many times I see a druid or someone standing in plain sight, healing horde in AV, *and nobody is killing them*. So I try it, and suddenly 5 horde jump on me and I die. They defend their healers!) The few times that I DO win BGs as Ally other than AV tend to be during the day time, when most kids are in school, and the Ally that are online are adults with the day off, irregular work hours, or something else that lets them play during the daytime. Since I was so tired of losing BGs, I rolled a horde toon on my server (Disc/Holy priest), and I noticed that the Horde chat quality was much better than Ally...less crudity for the sake of being crude, and a lot more jokes that were actually witty. There were still stupid people around, but not nearly as many. Of course, part of that might be because my server has a high Ally population in the first place...if 10% of people are idiots, 10% of 1000 is more than 10% of 100. Ironically, after that, I found a good guild with mature people on the Ally side. My Ally experience has become much better (although I still am aggrevated by BGs.) My guild on Horde side isn't as good. So, it varies, obviously, but I do feel that on my server at least, the immature tend to choose Alliance more often than Horde. |
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November 22, 2008, 02:59 AM
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Re: Do kids pick Alliance?
I have many alliance friends on my server (Demon Soul) and 85% of them are adults. The ones I know and run with are anyway. The BG's I am involed in are pretty balanced, maybe 40% alliance 60% horde if that. And if you wanna talk about being an underdog? Just check the stats on Alliance vs. Horde numbers on Demon Soul server. lol but I like it that way, I could never play a PVE server (just my preference) I like the fighting with horde while im questing or whatever I'm doing. Bring it on. I see people complain all the time "^%(*& horde ganking me" well, I hate to tell you but you joined a PVP server, lol. That comes with it. But bring it on you Horde scum :p I'll fight you.  Edit: actually I just checked it and it's roughly 75% horde vs. 25% alliance. lol. And I love it 
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November 22, 2008, 05:59 AM
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Re: Do kids pick Alliance?
Some of us roll Humans strictly because Diplomacy is the best racial ever (-9% rep grind), although the new trinket racial is definitely worth something now. |
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November 22, 2008, 06:11 AM
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November 22, 2008, 07:47 AM
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Vorlienas 80 Blood Elf Priest Scarshield Legion Euro RP PvP Guild: Who Dares Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: Do kids pick Alliance?
On my server, all the kids 'are' Alliance. Then again everyone is Alliance on my server, we outnumber Horde like 10 - 1 (Literally). Someone said in a previous post that kids like to be the 'good guys'. That can be debated, heavily. Most kids that I've talked to on my elf chose Horde so they could be the 'bad guys', the same happend on my dwarf they wanted to be the 'good guys'. All in all i think it's personal preference and it's equally balanced. Either way you'll always get some immature jerks who try to ruin your gaming session.  Just my two cents, Sarla.
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November 22, 2008, 10:29 AM
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Vaell 80 Blood Elf Warlock Scarshield Legion Euro RP PvP Guild: The Final Contingency Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/41/30 |
Re: Do kids pick Alliance?
Final words on this thread before I close it. It's not a substantive topic that can be proved, rather it will be debated endlessly with people from both factions making counters to whatever is said against it. Possibly, inflammatory remarks also, which is not a mature thing to do, given the pointlessness of the debate. It's also an old debate. Stick with your perception if it suits you. That's the first thing I'll offer in closing. Key word; Perception (not the human racial, the actual real world meaning of the word). Things that will affect someone's perception of the other faction:
My reasons for picking Horde: an RL friend got me into WoW. He played undead, and in his 20s. I myself am 35 years old, mature enough to be considered capable of moderating this site, however the first two moderators, Theleb and Maltyrius play Alliance and they are among the most mature people I've come into contact with on the Internet. Conversely, some of the most immature (possibly kids) people I've met on the internet play WoW, because it brings out the blinkered, selfish jerk in many people. That includes players of both factions. So, lets stop with the "It's like this because on my server [X] faction behave like idiots and they have [Y] players, so it must be universal across all servers" talk. It's is just your perception. Really. If you want to see the real divide in the WoW community, just compare this site, or EJ to the Official Forums. Then you'll see. Take note of every poster's faction and you'll realise that these perceptions are just that.
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