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May 02, 2009, 12:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
Shadow_Warlock	How to build up Spell Penetration? Hi, Firstly try not to flame me but can someone please point me in the direction of the thread that indicated how you could work towards 120 spell penetration?.. I know we have the cloak enchant..but what was the rest?..ive used the search function..i recall it was off a redmage write up but i cant find it.. Thanks S_W

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May 02, 2009, 12:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
Eschatos Character Info Eschatos 80 Gnome Warlock Emerald Dream Euro PvE Guild: Seven Sins Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 55/0/16	Re: How to build up Spell Penetration? im not the expert, but you get spell penetration from gems __________________ Screamin' Jay Hawkins could have been a lock!

May 02, 2009, 12:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
King Crab Character Info Satalitetv 80 Blood Elf Warlock Ravencrest US PvE Guild: Relic Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/15/54	Re: How to build up Spell Penetration? why would you need 120 spell penetration?

May 02, 2009, 01:09 PM

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Nefastus

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Nefastus
80 Gnome Warlock
The Scryers US RP Guild: Solace

Re: How to build up Spell Penetration?

This comment taken from Wowhead regarding the Spell Piercing enchant explains things quite well (source: Moonitions, Wowhead):

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With Felhunters losing almost all of their innate resistance, as well as Master Demonologist being changed (read: nerfed), almost all classes are on equal footing as far as spell resistance and penetration is concerned. A couple of the rare exceptions to this are Arcane Mages using Mage Armor in conjunction with Arcane Shielding and Magic Absorption to attain 140 resistance to all schools, and Frost Death Knights with stacked Acclimation to attain an additional 150 resistance to all schools.

That said, the new max rank of Mark of the Wild talented with the Improved Version that many druids will have in Arena from now on, provides 76 resistance to all schools of magic. Knowing this, if you are a casting class, which includes caster hybrids (with the exception of Paladins because holy resist doesn't exist), you'll want a minimum of 80 spell penetration to counter this because there will definitely be an abundance of druid teams of all specs and forms. If you are a class that also casts shadow-based spells (priest, warlock, and even death knight), you'll want to shoot for 130 penetration instead to counter a Priest's Shadow Protection buff.

Your best bets to do this are using the new Stormy Gems and/or the Spell Piercing cloak enchant.

Of course, we also have Curse of the Elements, which will reduce resistances by 165 (rank 5 available at level 78). Also, the Chaos Bolt spell ignores resistances.

Last edited by Nefastus; May 02, 2009 at 01:13 PM..

May 02, 2009, 11:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
Winkadoo Character Info Winkadoo 80 Human Warlock Magthierdon(A) US PvP Talent Spec: 0/17/54	Re: How to build up Spell Penetration? Id say go wit the back enchant first, then just go gems, im only aiming for around 80-85.

May 04, 2009, 11:44 AM	#6 (permalink)
XavronMG Character Info Xavron 80 Gnome Warlock Moon Guard US RP PvE Guild: Veritas Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17	Re: How to build up Spell Penetration? Back enchant is first - that's +35 (it's also the only spell pen enchant). After that, slot (2) of the +20 spell pen gems (Stormy, blue color), sacrificing a bit of resilience gems to do it. That gets you to about +75 spell pen, which is a very good starting point. On the upside, you need (3) blue color gems for your meta gem to work, so the spell pen gems help towards that as well. There's also +10 spell pen gems combine with other stats. Such as Mysterious, Tense, Radiant, etc. See: Northrend gems by color - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft Later on, you can pickup a PvP wand with +spell pen on it for another boost. I don't remember if the 1H, 2H or Offhand frills have spell pen on them. My personal goal was 75 spell pen, eventually getting up to 125-150 once I can get the wand.

May 11, 2009, 12:44 AM

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ydnandrew

Re: How to build up Spell Penetration?

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Originally Posted by Nefastus

Of course, we also have Curse of the Elements, which will reduce resistances by 165 (rank 5 available at level 78). Also, the Chaos Bolt spell ignores resistances.

And you obviously cannot rely on CoE for spell pen to combat MotW. If someone has MotW then there must be a druid on their team, and druids will just remove the curse. It does work just fine against priest teams, however. Then again, I like having more options with my curses, like CoEx, CoW or CoT, aside from the obvious Curse of Agony.

Sadly everyone here seems to be right. Enchant your cloak and load up with spell pen gems to reach your goal. How much you gem for is up to you since you will be sacrificing other stats like resil, spell power, and/or stamina.

May 11, 2009, 02:42 AM	#8 (permalink)
Belthezor Character Info Belthezor 80 Blood Elf Warlock Draenor US PvE PvP Guild: BCBuds Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 56/0/15	Re: How to build up Spell Penetration? Hmm.. so for arena what would the ideal spell pen. be? At at what point do you sacrifice other stats? As of now I have just been working toward resilience.. I'm at like 780 now. The only spell pen I have is the back enchant. Spellblade is still beyond my reach;( I wish they still offered the deadly weapons for those of us not at 1850;(

May 11, 2009, 02:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
ydnandrew	Re: How to build up Spell Penetration? I, personally, am shooting for 75 based off of what I have read. I just got back into PvP a couple weeks ago from a long break (since S4) so all I have right now is 35 from the enchant. 75 is easy achievable with the enchant and 2 gems, and it gets you almost high enough to completely counter improved MotW from druids. I'm destro for pvp right now, so I'm not too concerned about countering a prayer of shadow protection from priests.

May 11, 2009, 08:09 PM	#10 (permalink)
XavronMG Character Info Xavron 80 Gnome Warlock Moon Guard US RP PvE Guild: Veritas Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17	Re: How to build up Spell Penetration? You'll still see a lot of miss/resist at 75 SP and 60 +hit. I need to boost my +hit up to about 150 and get more Spell Pen. (Most of my misses are against Rogues, who are probably using an ability that boosts their resists.)

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