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Old May 20, 2009, 03:54 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Wyzim
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Misha US PvE
Guild: A Horde Dazed Knight
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Talent Spec: 0/40/31
3.1 Voidwalker Sacrifice change boon to pvp locks?

Hi,

I read the patch notes earlier and was extremely happy with the change to VW sacrifice spell. I feel I will be less squishy in BGs and arenas now if I can keep VW alive. My wow is currently broken, so can't really test it out in the battlegrounds.

Anyone have any first hand experiences to share how it is working in reality? Should we now put 3 points to get sacrifice absorption damage increased by 30%? With the talent, it will be like 10.7K damage absorption per minute for me! One instant summon if VW dies I wish voidwalker glyph further increased the damage absorbed :P
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Old May 20, 2009, 06:38 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Moirean
80 Human Warlock
Agamaggan Euro PvP

Re: Voidwalker Sacrifice change boon to pvp locks?

Only run a few BGs this morning, but so far I can't say I have any complaints. Biggest problem I had before the patch was paladins and rogues stunning and downing me in 5 secs or less if they got close (and I've got 700 resilience) - only chance I had was if their stun broke and I managed to get in a Death coil or howl of terror.

If they do heavy damage the shield won't last long, but it will give you the change to throw in a counterspell and/or get some distance, and you won't get oneshotted in the bg graveyard if you rez on top of them. 1 min CD is generous (nerf coming?) but don't expect it to be up all the time - any class that focuses his damage on you can probably dispel it in about 3-4 seconds. The most important thing is that it gives you more chances against those damn melees... Also, it sweet to se the "absorb, absorb, absorb" combat text over your head that must be so familiar to pallas :p

can't say anything about arenas as I don't go there... but I'll definitely test the VW further this weekend. I kept the VW on passive out of habit, but recalled later that they have that "reduce chance to hit"-thing....

edit: even though i have the shield, it seems i can still get stunned. oh well, nothing's perfect =)

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Old May 21, 2009, 08:51 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Misha US PvE
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Talent Spec: 0/40/31
3.1 Re: Voidwalker Sacrifice change boon to pvp locks?

Shield only absorbs damage, doesn't make immune to CC or anything

It is a big problem now with VW so effective against melee and Fel Hunter against the casters. But melee created more problems for me than casters, so this is definitely a welcome change.

Now just hope it doesn't get nerfed in the next patch.
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Old May 21, 2009, 09:00 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Firestarter
80 Undead Warrior
Dragonmaw Euro PvP
Guild: Evocati
Talent Spec: 0/22/49
3.1 Re: Voidwalker Sacrifice change boon to pvp locks?

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Shield only absorbs damage, doesn't make immune to CC or anything

It is a big problem now with VW so effective against melee and Fel Hunter against the casters. But melee created more problems for me than casters, so this is definitely a welcome change.

Now just hope it doesn't get nerfed in the next patch.
Knowing blizzard the nerf is most likely to come. They had months of ptr and still the didnt notice what conflagrate was capable of, they had 6 months of Wrath of the Lich King and finally made our pets decent (mabye waaaaay 2 good :P) so a change after the patch goes live aint something we havent seen so far, but well, they keep failing since The Burning Crusade, so that is expectable.

And if it took them so much to give us finally some decent chances to beat melee classes with the voidwalker thing, either means they changed their mind and want to turn locks from a free hk from a melee point of view, to an anti melee class, wich with this shield thingie is most likely going to be.

Sadly i smell nerf, since we aint blizzard's favorite puppits anymore as we were in s1 and s2
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Old May 21, 2009, 09:22 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Emerald Dream Euro PvE
Guild: Seven Sins
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Re: Voidwalker Sacrifice change boon to pvp locks?

i did lots of bg's last nite with my void to test the feature. it "may" give you a chance to escape, but the damage it absorbs is limited to 2-3 GCDs lol I mean a decent warrior, dk, pally will overcome the 8k damage amsorbtion before the stun breaks.
yeah, a glyph to boost the effect would be great!
so, from my point of view, its just a minor boost. just keep up stacking resilience and stamina, get a couple dispell/spellock macros for felpuppy, and keep practising lol

a question: what kinds of debuffs can the felhunter dispell?? is there a list for that?
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Old May 21, 2009, 10:27 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Draenor US PvE
Guild: Honor Guard
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3.1 Re: Voidwalker Sacrifice change boon to pvp locks?

I tried the shield yesterday, very nice!! Indeed very useful in BGs, but im not sure about the usefulness in Arenas. I dont think i'm gonna play around with the VW out, not having fel puppy / succy would be a huge loss. I'll still test it out very soon :D

Question: Can warrior's shattering throw dispel this shield like it does with bubble?
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Old May 24, 2009, 03:10 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Question: Can warrior's shattering throw dispel this shield like it does with bubble?
IF a warrior can shattering throw my shield faster than he can do 8000 damage w/ white crits than i bow to him :D
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Old May 24, 2009, 10:35 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Re: Voidwalker Sacrifice change boon to pvp locks?

Anyone try this out in arena yet?
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Old May 25, 2009, 04:03 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Dentarg US PvP
Guild: Pure Energy
Talent Spec: 3/13/55
3.1 Re: Voidwalker Sacrifice change boon to pvp locks?

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Question: Can warrior's shattering throw dispel this shield like it does with bubble?
No, it can't. The shattering throw ability wipes immunity effects (check the tooltip) and as such will remove divine shield and ice block. I wish that the voidwalker shield was a pally bubble but no such luck. :P
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Old May 25, 2009, 04:24 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Only run a few BGs this morning, but so far I can't say I have any complaints. Biggest problem I had before the patch was paladins and rogues stunning and downing me in 5 secs or less if they got close (and I've got 700 resilience) - only chance I had was if their stun broke and I managed to get in a Death coil or howl of terror.

If they do heavy damage the shield won't last long, but it will give you the change to throw in a counterspell and/or get some distance, and you won't get oneshotted in the bg graveyard if you rez on top of them.
Yeah, it's lot's of fun. My favorite sequence against melee, which sometimes works, goes like this:
I fear, start an immolate, the melee trinkets and angrily comes back, I bubble and SHADOWFLAME (with the glyph, haha! /roar) running through melee and fear again - with sometimes no damage .

More often than not, I'm stunned or something, but the same idea, bubble, wait for end of stun and shadowflame! - getting out with more than half of life.
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