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Old June 17, 2009, 10:02 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Milusmilus
70 Undead Warlock
The Mealstorm Euro PvP
Talent Spec: SL-SL
3.1 Arena mate for 2vs2

I all,
I read the forum and i know the talents for arena its AFF.
But plz tell me what the best mate we can get for 2vs2?



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Old June 17, 2009, 10:28 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Terenas Euro PvE

Re: Arena mate for 2vs2

a healer.


btw: for 2v2 the spec really seems to be affliction. 3v3 and 5v5 see many destro locks though!
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Old June 17, 2009, 11:25 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Guild: Entity

3.1 Re: Arena mate for 2vs2

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a healer.


btw: for 2v2 the spec really seems to be affliction. 3v3 and 5v5 see many destro locks though!
Destro's decent if you're running a burst team as well... but if you're running with a healer, you really need to be aff, or you'll go oom too quickly since you're the only one really trying to DPS anyone down.
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Old June 17, 2009, 12:49 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Ajzol-Nerub US PvE
Guild: Clan Battlehammer
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Re: Arena mate for 2vs2

Shaman healer is nice.
Maybe a druid? I haven't ran with a druid since BC
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Old June 17, 2009, 01:52 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Executus US PvP
Guild: Rotten
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Talent Spec: 0/17/54
3.1 Re: Arena mate for 2vs2

You've got 2 talent options for 2v2, and your ideal partner will depend on what build you use, and vice versa. You're either looking at 54/17/0 or 0/17/54. Both are definitely viable, but the play style is very different. If you go Affliction, you're definitely going to want a healer for your partner. Priests and Paladins don't really lend themselves to this play style, so you'll want to stick with a Shaman or a Druid. Be prepared for a VERY long match, as Affliction has no real burst ability outside of lucky procs. You're going to have to put pressure on both opponents, otherwise you're never going to put any pressure on the opponent's healer. Once you're close to a kill, your partner will need to coordinate a CC chain with you to seal the deal - hence Druid or Shaman.

If you go the Destruction route, you open yourself up to both healer and dps partners. Since Blind and fear now share diminishing returns, W/R isn't as popular as it used to be. A Good dps partner would be a Mage, Boomkin, DK, or Ret Pally. The idea is to lock down (pun intended) their healer with your combined CC while bursting down the other opponent. If you want a healer partner, you really could use any of the 4 available classes. Druids will want to be Restokin, and the Pally will want to spec for shorter CD's on their stun. Regardless of you your healer partner is, they will want/need to be very aggressive minded. For example, when not healing you, they should by all means jump in on the damage wagon.
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Old June 17, 2009, 05:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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3.1 Re: Arena mate for 2vs2

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You've got 2 talent options for 2v2, and your ideal partner will depend on what build you use, and vice versa. You're either looking at 54/17/0 or 0/17/54. Both are definitely viable, but the play style is very different. If you go Affliction, you're definitely going to want a healer for your partner. Priests and Paladins don't really lend themselves to this play style, so you'll want to stick with a Shaman or a Druid. Be prepared for a VERY long match, as Affliction has no real burst ability outside of lucky procs. You're going to have to put pressure on both opponents, otherwise you're never going to put any pressure on the opponent's healer. Once you're close to a kill, your partner will need to coordinate a CC chain with you to seal the deal - hence Druid or Shaman.

If you go the Destruction route, you open yourself up to both healer and dps partners. Since Blind and fear now share diminishing returns, W/R isn't as popular as it used to be. A Good dps partner would be a Mage, Boomkin, DK, or Ret Pally. The idea is to lock down (pun intended) their healer with your combined CC while bursting down the other opponent. If you want a healer partner, you really could use any of the 4 available classes. Druids will want to be Restokin, and the Pally will want to spec for shorter CD's on their stun. Regardless of you your healer partner is, they will want/need to be very aggressive minded. For example, when not healing you, they should by all means jump in on the damage wagon.
This ^, however another viable Destruction build is 0/20/51 w/ Imp Succubus. This works well with rogue, mage or elemental shaman for a 2's partner.
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Old June 18, 2009, 08:48 AM   #7 (permalink)

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80 Gnome Warlock
Burning Blade Euro PvP
Guild: NoRespect
Talent Spec: 3/17/51
3.1 Re: Arena mate for 2vs2

Do you have any experience how to find a active mate / mates for arena? I enjoy pvp though most of my friends are pve players who don't arena at all.

I've joined a pvp guild - a single one on my server As far as I know (but everyone seems to have stable teams), I shout to general/local defence channels from time to time but I got almost no response but a few locks (yeah, i'm searching too) and frostmages (don't ask me why ;) - possibly good combo, which I don't really know how to play.

Doing skirmishes is not much fun since the combos are usually suboptimal and the players can't cooperate well.

Any ideas? Should I change my guild?
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Old June 18, 2009, 10:29 AM   #8 (permalink)

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3.1 Re: Arena mate for 2vs2

Before Wrath of the Lich King came out, I was running affliction spec with a shadow priest. We were doing pretty good too. I think towards the end we had right around a 1600 rating. Then my partner changed realms
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Old June 18, 2009, 01:11 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Executus US PvP
Guild: Rotten
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Talent Spec: 0/17/54
3.1 Re: Arena mate for 2vs2

To respond to a few of the posts;

1) The Succubus seems to be getting less play now that you can no longer talent for an instant Seduce. Granted, half a second cast when talented doesn't seem like much, but it's now something you can pillar hump away from. She still works, but it's tougher now.

2) As for finding the right partner, I'm convinced that that's the bigger battle than the matches themselves! The first thing that I would recommend is to take a step back and decide how you want to play in the arena. Do you want to just run your 10 matches a week? Do you want to run more than that, but on a "pick up" casual level throughout the week? Or do you want to run 3 hours four nights a week on a strict schedule? Once you've got an idea of what you're interested in doing, then you can go out in search of a partner that has the same perspective. I'd start with your guild members since you're in a PvP guild. Decide whether or not you want to run Affliction or Destruction, and then see who might be a good match for a partner. Take a look at their Armory page and see if they're already on a 2v2 team that they won't likely want to drop. Then ask them individually instead of just a /g spam. Looking for a partner on your realm's forum, or in trade chat is a mixed bag. For every nice and reasonable person who might respond to you, there's about ten other jerks who will be abusive and/or waste your time. I'm not saying don't go that route, I'm just saying be prepared for that kind of thing.

For example, this season I've decided to not try to run a competitive comp, but instead just do occasional pick up matches with friends. The comps aren't ideal, and some of my friends aren't running great gear, but now that I have a three month old baby boy, I don't really have time to grind out rank anymore. So on the rare occasions I log on, I just want to goof around with buddies. Anyhoo, I hope this helps!
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Old June 18, 2009, 02:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
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3.1 Re: Arena mate for 2vs2

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To respond to a few of the posts;

1) The Succubus seems to be getting less play now that you can no longer talent for an instant Seduce. Granted, half a second cast when talented doesn't seem like much, but it's now something you can pillar hump away from. She still works, but it's tougher now.

2) As for finding the right partner, I'm convinced that that's the bigger battle than the matches themselves! The first thing that I would recommend is to take a step back and decide how you want to play in the arena. Do you want to just run your 10 matches a week? Do you want to run more than that, but on a "pick up" casual level throughout the week? Or do you want to run 3 hours four nights a week on a strict schedule? Once you've got an idea of what you're interested in doing, then you can go out in search of a partner that has the same perspective. I'd start with your guild members since you're in a PvP guild. Decide whether or not you want to run Affliction or Destruction, and then see who might be a good match for a partner. Take a look at their Armory page and see if they're already on a 2v2 team that they won't likely want to drop. Then ask them individually instead of just a /g spam. Looking for a partner on your realm's forum, or in trade chat is a mixed bag. For every nice and reasonable person who might respond to you, there's about ten other jerks who will be abusive and/or waste your time. I'm not saying don't go that route, I'm just saying be prepared for that kind of thing.

For example, this season I've decided to not try to run a competitive comp, but instead just do occasional pick up matches with friends. The comps aren't ideal, and some of my friends aren't running great gear, but now that I have a three month old baby boy, I don't really have time to grind out rank anymore. So on the rare occasions I log on, I just want to goof around with buddies. Anyhoo, I hope this helps!
Same here, though my son is only a little over a month old now. ;)
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