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June 22, 2009, 08:14 AM	#1 (permalink)
Jenren22 Character Info Jenerena 80 Blood Elf Warlock Executus Euro PvP Guild: Deliverance Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58	Warlock PvP Right i've seen alot of posts going on about how to tackle mages, warriors, rogues etc. BUT i think it might be useful to maybe merge all this perhaps into one so we can construct a big sticky on how to tackle individual classes, perhaps including links to other sites or whatever. I've been looking for a good guide for a while on tackling each class and instead i've had to search for individual classes. Basically, i'm a newbie to PvP, and WoW generally and as this is my first char i do not know much about what to expect from other classes in arena, and how to deal with them. I guess it's complicated with all the different specs but we can refer to each for each class. Any comments?

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June 22, 2009, 09:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
Drlatex Character Info Drlatex 80 Human Warlock Nagrand Euro PvE Guild: Tranquility	Re: Warlock PvP This has been done before...It might not be up-to-date but might help you a bit. I'm no pvp-er so i cant really value its accuracy but: Warlock PvP guide - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft __________________ No matter what Blizzard has in store for Warlocks, one thing is for certain: Until they introduce “Kurt Cobain” as a playable class, no one —I repeat, NO ONE— will be able to kill themselves quite like a Warlock can.

June 22, 2009, 11:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ikabod Character Info Ikabod 80 Gnome Warlock Aleria US PvE Talent Spec: 0/17/54	Re: Warlock PvP Well, i guess i will throw in my two cents here... i have been doing PVP pretty constant over the last month or so. and i have to say i really like it. even as a class that is not really meant for PVP i do pretty good. I would first like to forward you guys to Arena Junkies. it is very helpful. these guys are top ranked in PVP and they provide guides on how to tackle other classes in arena and in battlegrounds; Arena Junkies - World of Warcraft PvP Strategy and Discussion as for my personal experiences. any sort of trinket that will release you from binding affects is your best friend! such as: Medallion of the Alliance i have this bad boy right in click reach on my screen that way if i get feared or stunned i just click it and i am FREE! when it comes to fighting other classes i find that distance is vital. stay far away, if they come towards you... back up and throw curses. Also Shadowfury Is going to be a main spell used in PVP. when a whole group of enemies group together or there is a bundle fight of about 10-15 people all huddled together drop, this right on them and it will stun them for a few seconds. if you are one on one with another class, use this first. my rotation is usually: shadowfury>curse (depending on class)>immolate>conflag>chaos bolt>spam incenerate>shadowburn (sometimes) now this is all crazy because the rotation can get messed up depending on the fight. i may throw in a fear, or a death coil here and there if it is on CD; if i am not being target right off, i will throw curse of tongues on any caster (to slow down their casting) and curse of weakness on melee classes (to knock down some damage they do) anything you can do to help is worth the effort. I also have: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=46087 macro's to my Conflag that way when the CD is up i get an extra 440 SpellPower when casting Conflag which stays effective for 20 seconds so if i get my full rotation in i get that extra boost! just as a quick note: i use DoTimer to watch my cooldowns. i have found that the worst part of PVP is not having a spell ready when you need it. ShadowFury has a 20 second cooldown and it's nice to have the DoTimer cooldown bar right there on the screen to see when it will be ready. alot of people say that Shadowburn is not worth using in PVP but i have to disagree. it's instant damage and it can really help when a healer is just about to bring a guy up from 5% life back to 100% so throw this instant on him and he's down! i do keep a full 32 shards in my bag when i am PVP'ing as well. to insure i have enough. The best way to learn to PVP is get out there and do it. i went in cold not knowing ANYTHING about it. the warlock den really helped with all the threads and i hope this one will help other warlock succeed. but honestly just play battlegrounds over and over and fight. you will die and get mad and want to break your keyboard over rogues and DK's, but once you get geared up it gets better. and just for the record, my spec is 0/17/54 and i use the felhunter. i don't use him to attack, he is on passive to remove debuffs and stopcast other players. i also use the glyph of felhuner so he will heal me when he removes a debuff. __________________ iK Last edited by Ikabod; June 22, 2009 at 12:13 PM..

June 22, 2009, 11:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
RomaGoth Character Info RomaGoth 80 Human Warlock Durotan US PvE Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 30/41/0	Re: Warlock PvP I don't want to hijack the thread, but I have been wondering about the PvP landscape since Lich King came out. I have not done any at all in several months. How is the reward system set up now? Last I heard, we have to do arena and bg's to earn the gear. Is this true? I enjoyed the bg's (AV and AB especially), but have no real interest in arena, at least right now. Is it possible to get the resilience gear without doing arena? Also, the link above to Wowwiki PvP guide is pretty decent, I gave it a look over. __________________ If I want your opinion I'll have my Felguard beat it out of you.

June 22, 2009, 11:40 AM

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Ikabod

Character Info
Ikabod
80 Gnome Warlock
Aleria US PvE
Talent Spec: 0/17/54

Re: Warlock PvP

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

I don't want to hijack the thread, but I have been wondering about the PvP landscape since Lich King came out. I have not done any at all in several months. How is the reward system set up now? Last I heard, we have to do arena and bg's to earn the gear. Is this true? I enjoyed the bg's (AV and AB especially), but have no real interest in arena, at least right now. Is it possible to get the resilience gear without doing arena?

Also, the link above to Wowwiki PvP guide is pretty decent, I gave it a look over.

there are tons of ways to get gear... first off for warlocks a tailor can make you the frostsavage set. it is a pvp set with resilience. no honor needed. once you have that. to get honor points do all the BG's that are available. then you can turn in one of each battleground marks for 1200 honor. you get one mark for doing the BG, then if you win the BG you get 3.

if you do wintergrasp you get honor for killing players, but you also get wintergrasp marks of honor that can be used as currency for gear and trinkets. check out the PVP gear guides under the PVP section of the forum for full info on gear. if you want to start PVP get the Frostsavage set first. then work your way into the hateful set and deadly set. which costs honor points. but they are actually pretty easy to get now.

i have not done the argent tournament or arena yet. i am waiting to get better skills and better gear before i go jumping into arena. as for weapons though. you pretty much have to use PVE weapons for PVP. and the Iron Bound Tome is good for off hand. a scribe can make this with minimal mats. the hardest mad to get is a frozen orb.

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June 22, 2009, 12:44 PM

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ooksooks

Character Info
Norser
80 Undead Warlock
Earthen Ring US RP Guild: Alea Iacta Est
Profile: Blizzard Armory

Re: Warlock PvP

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Originally Posted by Jenren22

Right i've seen alot of posts going on about how to tackle mages, warriors, rogues etc. BUT i think it might be useful to maybe merge all this perhaps into one so we can construct a big sticky on how to tackle individual classes, perhaps including links to other sites or whatever.

I've been looking for a good guide for a while on tackling each class and instead i've had to search for individual classes. Basically, i'm a newbie to PvP, and WoW generally and as this is my first char i do not know much about what to expect from other classes in arena, and how to deal with them. I guess it's complicated with all the different specs but we can refer to each for each class.

Any comments?

Ok, I don't believe I am doing this as I always steer people away from the blizzard official forums, but there must an exception to the rule.

Try this sticky at the official blizzard warlock forums as it is worth the read. It's mainly oriented to how warlocks fight in battlegrounds than world pvp or arena. For arenas I would also suggest the arena junkies site. But, if you are new to pvp I would highly recommend using battlegrounds as a training ground for pvp.

I would not suggest that you look at any other of the posts in that forum as you can get better and "untrolled" information about our class here.

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June 22, 2009, 01:16 PM

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Honeyfitz

Character Info
Honeyfitz
80 Human Warlock
Malfurion US PvE
Guild: Entity

Re: Warlock PvP

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Originally Posted by RomaGoth

You can do arena for PvP gear, run VoA, grind honor, collect Wintergrasp marks, or have someone craft you some kinda subpar stuff as well.

Personally, I didn't waste my time/money on the crappy crafted gear; If you do BGs for a couple hours 2 nights in a row, then you've more than likely earned enough honor for 1 piece of gear. Easiest way other than running VoA, imo, is to do the daily BG every day, and run a few of each BG to be able to turn in your marks for Concerted Efforts. Of course, I'm totally anal about it, so I need to have the same amount of marks for each BG - at least my insanity helps me grind honor! Also, try and do WG whenever it's up when you're online (make sure you do the quests - tons of honor) - it's not as demanding as it sounds since it's a 2 hour-ish timer. Just my 2cents, of course ;)

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June 22, 2009, 02:22 PM

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RomaGoth

Character Info
RomaGoth
80 Human Warlock
Durotan US PvE
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 30/41/0

Re: Warlock PvP

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ikabod

there are tons of ways to get gear... first off for warlocks a tailor can make you the frostsavage set. it is a pvp set with resilience.

This is nice. Even if it is considered a subpar set, it will be a good start for me. Since I am a tailor, I can make this while leveling my tailoring, eh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ikabod

and the Iron Bound Tome is good for off hand. a scribe can make this with minimal mats. the hardest mad to get is a frozen orb.

Thanks!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honeyfitz

Personally, I didn't waste my time/money on the crappy crafted gear; If you do BGs for a couple hours 2 nights in a row, then you've more than likely earned enough honor for 1 piece of gear. Easiest way other than running VoA, imo, is to do the daily BG every day, and run a few of each BG to be able to turn in your marks for Concerted Efforts. Of course, I'm totally anal about it, so I need to have the same amount of marks for each BG - at least my insanity helps me grind honor! Also, try and do WG whenever it's up when you're online (make sure you do the quests - tons of honor) - it's not as demanding as it sounds since it's a 2 hour-ish timer. Just my 2cents, of course ;)

Thanks for the info. I am still wearing some of my purples from BC, some of it is heroics/Kara stuff, others are from honor/marks in PvP. At least I can do some bg's with somewhat upgraded resilience gear vs. the level 70 stuff. I would like to hit the 5k kill achievement soon.

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June 22, 2009, 02:28 PM

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Supernex

Status: Sit vis vobiscum.

Character Info
Supernex
80 Gnome Warlock
Drak'thul US PvP
Guild: Epic Drops
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/20/51

Re: Warlock PvP

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honeyfitz

You can do arena for PvP gear, run VoA, grind honor, collect Wintergrasp marks, or have someone craft you some kinda subpar stuff as well.

Personally, I didn't waste my time/money on the crappy crafted gear; If you do BGs for a couple hours 2 nights in a row, then you've more than likely earned enough honor for 1 piece of gear. Easiest way other than running VoA, imo, is to do the daily BG every day, and run a few of each BG to be able to turn in your marks for Concerted Efforts. Of course, I'm totally anal about it, so I need to have the same amount of marks for each BG - at least my insanity helps me grind honor! Also, try and do WG whenever it's up when you're online (make sure you do the quests - tons of honor) - it's not as demanding as it sounds since it's a 2 hour-ish timer. Just my 2cents, of course ;)

It's not a big deal if you are just getting started in PVP. If I remember correctly I had 4 pieces of Frostsavage before I even hit level 80. Having the crafted set is far better than nothing if you are planning to PVP, and it is nearly as good as the first set of level 80 PVP gear as well. At about 70g a piece a person could easily gear up and make the PVP experience much more fun while aquiring better gear. However, that being said, if you are fully [epic] PVE geared, then it can be fun to go into PVP and just melt faces - if you are good at avoidence, (and don't mind getting gibbed by melee otherwise.)

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June 22, 2009, 02:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jenren22 Character Info Jenerena 80 Blood Elf Warlock Executus Euro PvP Guild: Deliverance Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58	Re: Warlock PvP Thank you for the replies. I have in fact looked at that battleground thread before and have learned alot from reading it, but i guess i wanted to see what else is out there, as of course that thread is aimed at BGs and it doesn't always cover everything you need to know, such as how to fake cast a mage, stuff like that. More arena stuff. Thanks for the advice Ikabod, i am in fact an affliction warlock but your advice still helps me!

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