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June 25, 2009, 02:01 PM
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love this response, very helpful, especially the beer run break. may have to put a key-binded macro on my bar just for that! as for the rogue deal, i have tried my best to avoid them, i jumped in a BG the other day and there were 5 of them... out of 8... so i jumped out, lol. didn't want to be a jerk but i don't want to have to buy a new keyboard after i break it over my knee with irritation (never done that i promise  )i don't really care about Blizz Nerfing the rogues, that would be nice, but not really neccessary, i think we should have a stun-break type of spell, something to get us out of a bind like that. maybe give one to each class just for rogue type encounters. This won't happen so i am just trying to get myself ready for these types of fights. So, is there a warlock here that has a rogue toon that would like to give some insight into how you do things and how to kill you... perhaps.. 
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June 25, 2009, 02:03 PM
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Venthorsnipe 80 Human Warlock Thunderlord US PvP Guild: Ka Tet Corp Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/14/57 |
Re: Warlock PvP
i tried a deep affliction build and hated it. iHoT was well sort of helpful it wasnt that great i mean i dont even use fear anymore with all these f ing trinkets. haunt was pretty useless and unstable affliction was just, another dot i guess is how you could say it. BORING. deep destro is imo a better BG build after all, burst is king. The siphon life nerf also hit hard on the SL/SL, although i believe that was primarily an arena spec imo the destro 1 point talents are much more helpful, Shadowburn is great if used correctly, you get +5 crit chance, conflag has great burst and if talented increases the cast time of your next 3 spells by 30% and when it crits increases damage by 6% for like 10 sec. shadowfury in great, i mean who doesnt need a stun? its a life saver. chaos bolt is like a super incinerate, faster cast and more damage in my gear it crits for 13k. and thats why destro is literally, "the bomb" |
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June 25, 2009, 02:35 PM
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Supernex 80 Gnome Warlock Drak'thul US PvP Guild: Epic Drops Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/20/51 |
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June 25, 2009, 02:45 PM
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Wyzim 80 Blood Elf Warlock Misha US PvE Guild: A Horde Dazed Knight Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/40/31 |
Re: Warlock PvP
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So it comes down to one's playing style. PvE gear and PvE spec can give you a lot of damage stats, which can help you burn down enemies faster, especially if you got a good support team to keep you alive(you will be VERY fragile). With PvP gear and spec though, you can stand on your own, have more escaping abilities and you will be even stronger with a support team, but you kill players little bit slowly. Look at my PvP spec on my armory page - lot of survivability talents instead of damage boosting ones. Based on your play style, if you intend to replace some of the PvE gear only, get pvp trinkets and 4 piece Hateful Gladiator's Felweave set(skip the chest). If you eventually want to switch to complete PvP gear, get trinkets and 4pc Hateful Gladiator's Felweave set first, then the rest of the gear as suggested in the links. You can stick to PvE weapons till you replace the other pieces. I wouldn't look too much at item levels; in my opinion, the full PvP gear listed in those links is superior to your current PvE gear, survivability wise. My PvE stats: HP: 16,865, Resilience: 66, +Spell: 2249, +haste: 346, +crit: 19.35% ==> 16.8K HP is like screaming to enemy players, "Kill me first! Kill me fast!"  My PvP stats: HP: 21,185, Resilience: 813, +spell: 2017 (1719 with Demon Armor!), +haste: 93, +crit: 18.81% ==> 21K HP, 3.3K more health from trinket, VW sacrifice(11K) and Improved Healthstone(5K) should help you live longer than your enemy
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June 26, 2009, 06:19 AM
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Jenerena 80 Blood Elf Warlock Executus Euro PvP Guild: Deliverance Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
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Anyway, i left my arena team yesterday because my partner let another lock onto the team so he could boost him through. This lock had better gear than me, same spec, everything. And spent all afternoon doing arena together. So i was a bit miffed, plus i was getting my rating robbed so i decided to leave. I'm a little stuck now though, how on earth do i find a new team? I want someone serious who wants to play with me rather than boost other people. I don't really like the idea of spamming trade channel. I do duel alot so get to know people but they're already in high rated teams. And my partner also plays who is very high rated and been playing years. Plus i'm female, who would want to play with a girl?  .
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June 26, 2009, 11:52 AM
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Re: Warlock PvP
the only thing that i worry when using my PVP gear is Haste, my spells are so slow. i usually use a Firestone for the crit, but i have really been tempted to use the spellstone just to get my haste up. my biggest problem is sitting there waiting for a spell to cast then i get ganked by another player. do you guys think that it is worth it to trade a few of the deadly gladiators Dominance pieces for Salvation pieces... the Dominance gives Crit and the Salvation gives Haste... i mean what do you think the balance between haste and crit should be? i like the crit cause it will kill the dude faster, but that don't matter when you can't get your spell to cast. Theory crafting at it's best huh? lol 
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June 26, 2009, 12:31 PM
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RomaGoth 80 Human Warlock Durotan US PvE Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 30/41/0 |
Re: Warlock PvP
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I have limited experience at high level PvP with my rogue, but I can say that getting the jump on one is your key to success. If you don't get the jump on him, then you need to try and survive his initial attacks and not allow him to vanish, because a vanish allows him to heal and reset cooldowns. There was a good thread in the Den a while back about rogues, here - Killing a Rogue...Written by a Rogue. - The Warlocks Den Forums It may be a little outdated now, but should still help immensely in understanding rogue PvP. Roma
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June 26, 2009, 12:46 PM
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wow, i like that rogue post. not bad, and quite helpful. Oh, and i have been banishing trees like crazy!! lol 
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June 26, 2009, 01:25 PM
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RomaGoth 80 Human Warlock Durotan US PvE Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 30/41/0 |
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