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Old June 26, 2009, 03:33 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Ikabod, being a Gnome you have the racial, Escape Artist, this will remove Crippling Poison...you should use this not when he is beating on you, but whenever you cast Conflag or Shadowfury from close range, (obviously only if you actually have Crippling Poison on you!) so you can gain distance on him. And if you use Succubus (which I recommend against Rogues especially) use her Seduce wisely between nukes to do as much burst damage as possible without letting him close much distance on you.
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Old June 26, 2009, 03:39 PM   #52 (permalink)

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yah, i do use the escape artist quite a bit... now the deal with the demons is i use the felhunter, that way he can zap debuffs off me and all that stuff. but i found that he died pretty quick, so i put him on passive, when i encounter a rogue, should i pop out the succy real quick? i've never really used her before.
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Old June 26, 2009, 03:49 PM   #53 (permalink)
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yah, i do use the escape artist quite a bit... now the deal with the demons is i use the felhunter, that way he can zap debuffs off me and all that stuff. but i found that he died pretty quick, so i put him on passive, when i encounter a rogue, should i pop out the succy real quick? i've never really used her before.
Well, that would be up to you. You should try using her in some BG's for a while, if not for anything else at least it will give you a good feel for what she brings to the table. In PVP I use her 95% of the time, she is my favorite pet by far as she is useful against every class, and I have found that I can control the fights much better with her. That being said, as Demo I would use Felguard, and as Affliction I use Felhunter.
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Old June 26, 2009, 04:36 PM   #54 (permalink)

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one time i had my account hacked i had a little change the epic tabard of flame and no gear no weopon no nothing.

so i tried to make the best of it and i just started to do Arathi Basin to try to get some sort of gear while Blizz works on getting my stuff back.

i actually made fun out of the situation i put on the tabard of flame bought a skinning dagger had it enchanted with beastlayer to match my tabard specced in deep destro

improved imp and soul link

i put my invisible imp near the flag at the stables had him to stay there and set on violent. and stood on top of that little shack near the stables whenever a horde will come to the flag at stables (nobody else was gaurding the flag but me and the imp) my imp kept on shooting instantly while i shadowfury him and did rain of fire before he even noticed what was hitting him sometimes there will be a big crowd fighting and all i was doing was using shadowfury and rain of fire with my imp near the flag i would lmao cause i will get allot of honor that way and within a couple of days i got my robe

for 3 weeks i was a naked gnome with a red tabard and a glowing knife but i still kicked @ss! till one day i get a mail with all of my stuff blizzard got for me back i was so happy!

but kind to think of it. It was still kind of fun being the only naked gnome with a red tabard in the BG sometimes when life gives throws you a rotten egg you make a omlet with it and you lol its better then crying

and you got think how mad those horde were when they got waisted by a little naked gnome with no gear
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Old June 26, 2009, 05:31 PM   #55 (permalink)

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Well, that would be up to you. You should try using her in some BG's for a while, if not for anything else at least it will give you a good feel for what she brings to the table. In PVP I use her 95% of the time, she is my favorite pet by far as she is useful against every class, and I have found that I can control the fights much better with her. That being said, as Demo I would use Felguard, and as Affliction I use Felhunter.
I always used my felguard in PvP. I made a living out of sniffing out rogues and sending my felguard on intercept before he could get to me. I was not always successful, but most of the time it worked. In reality, I could beat a rogue most of the time, but if more than one came at me I knew I was screwed.

As for pets, I never really used the succy too much but I may have to try her next time I do a bg. In fact, I can't even remember what her name is. Does that make me a bad master, or just another guy?
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Old June 30, 2009, 11:48 AM   #56 (permalink)

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As for pets, I never really used the succy too much but I may have to try her next time I do a bg. In fact, I can't even remember what her name is. Does that make me a bad master, or just another guy?
well considering she is your "war goddess demon slave" you can call her whatever you like, what matters is what she call you! Sir, Master, Majesty, Daddy, Big Papa! lol


on another note, i have been using my felhunter religiously in PVP, i did try the succubus but honesltly they kill her as soon as they see her. so i find myself resummoning constantly. the felhunter just hangs out and i use spell lock and devour magic as much as possible.

however i have learned a few things over the last couple days. someone made the comment that Warlocks are PERFECT for Crowd Control. which is extremely true. i can tear up a crowd and send them running, but that is counting on there being others around me to take care of the dirty work. Personally i still cannot find myself able to beat someone 1 on 1. i dont know if i just don't have a good rotation. or if i just suck at PVP. or maybe its my spec. i don't know. but i can cast seed of corruption in a battle over and over and really do some damage to a crowd, i can help a mate fight a rogue by using shadowfury to stop em' in their tracks, i can throw curses like crazes and stop casts, but i cannot for the life of me even beat a mage 1 on 1! i am really getting distressed and worried that PVP is just not for me... or warlocks.

it's possible that i may just be under geared (deadly, hateful, and 3 or for frost-savage... still gearing At the moment) and my foes are just simply rocking hard and experienced. but again... it's only been a month or so of PVP'ing to get me to this point. however through my many battles i find myself seeking the companionship of other players while in BG's because i know facing another player will end in my certain death (most of the time). i know i can run good. so i am good at carrying a flag in WG. howl of terror and the demon port thing is a blessing. but i've even thought about breaking out my dagger in fights cause i get so frustrated with trying to cast and it not working (not really, my dagger skill is at 21) lol

but the point is, i hear others say all the time that warlocks are some of the best fighters and we are feared among other classes in PVP. but i honeslty don't see it yet. i'm not giving up or anything, i still have tons of gear to get, i'm about 4 pieces away from the recommended set before going into Arena, (other than a good dagger and wand) so i am hoping i can get better geared and perform better, i know there is more to learn and i am looking forward to it, but i just can't stand not being able to hold my own against an enemy... sigh* Sorry for the rant! lol
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Old June 30, 2009, 12:55 PM   #57 (permalink)

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Personally i still cannot find myself able to beat someone 1 on 1. i dont know if i just don't have a good rotation. or if i just suck at PVP. or maybe its my spec. i don't know...but i cannot for the life of me even beat a mage 1 on 1! i am really getting distressed and worried that PVP is just not for me... or warlocks.

it's possible that i may just be under geared (deadly, hateful, and 3 or for frost-savage... still gearing At the moment) and my foes are just simply rocking hard and experienced. but again... it's only been a month or so of PVP'ing to get me to this point. however through my many battles i find myself seeking the companionship of other players while in BG's because i know facing another player will end in my certain death (most of the time). i know i can run good...

but the point is, i hear others say all the time that warlocks are some of the best fighters and we are feared among other classes in PVP. but i honeslty don't see it yet. i'm not giving up or anything...so i am hoping i can get better geared and perform better, i know there is more to learn and i am looking forward to it, but i just can't stand not being able to hold my own against an enemy... sigh* Sorry for the rant! lol
It does sound like you are frustrated. Trust me, when I first started doing PvP in bg's with my lock, I was very frustrated. I found that the melee especially came after me first. As a clothie, you are a target because others see you as an easy kill. There is nothing wrong with running away in PvP. As a gnome especially, you should be hiding behind trees, bushes, rocks, buildings, other players, whatever works and laying down dots on everyone. You will never be able to stand toe-to-toe with melee characters. As for mages, well........you need to just practice more I guess. I found mages especially easy in PvP (along with druids). With your felpuppy they should not have a chance due to being oom/silenced much of the time. As others have said, go after the healers first, this will make a huge difference in how well your side does. Remember, it is not a sprint, but a marathon.

"Run away, run away, so you can fight another day"

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Old June 30, 2009, 01:13 PM   #58 (permalink)
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It does sound like you are frustrated. Trust me, when I first started doing PvP in bg's with my lock, I was very frustrated. I found that the melee especially came after me first. As a clothie, you are a target because others see you as an easy kill. There is nothing wrong with running away in PvP. As a gnome especially, you should be hiding behind trees, bushes, rocks, buildings, other players, whatever works and laying down dots on everyone. You will never be able to stand toe-to-toe with melee characters. As for mages, well........you need to just practice more I guess. I found mages especially easy in PvP (along with druids). With your felpuppy they should not have a chance due to being oom/silenced much of the time. As others have said, go after the healers first, this will make a huge difference in how well your side does. Remember, it is not a sprint, but a marathon.

"Run away, run away, so you can fight another day"

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Couple things to note about your post: 1) Ikabod plays as Destro in PVP if I am not mistaken, so running around "casting DoTs on everyone" isn't really the ideal way to play that spec as the DoTs just aren't very powerful as Destro. He needs to setup burst chains laced with CC to take down an enemy as Destro. 2) A warlock that knows his class, as well as melee classes, can definitely stand toe-to-toe with those melee classes. The hardest melee class typically should be a DK, and maybe a rogue if you are poorly geared, as they have more mitigation, health regen, and interrupts/silences/stuns than we do, but that doesn't mean we can't win against them 1v1.
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Old June 30, 2009, 01:18 PM   #59 (permalink)

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Couple things to note about your post: 1) Ikabod plays as Destro in PVP if I am not mistaken, so running around "casting DoTs on everyone" isn't really the ideal way to play that spec as the DoTs just aren't very powerful as Destro. He needs to setup burst chains laced with CC to take down an enemy as Destro.
I wasn't aware he plays as Destro. That definitely changes the playstyle.

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2) A warlock that knows his class, as well as melee classes, can definitely stand toe-to-toe with those melee classes. The hardest melee class typically should be a DK, and maybe a rogue if you are poorly geared, as they have more mitigation, health regen, and interrupts/silences/stuns than we do, but that doesn't mean we can't win against them 1v1.
Never said that he couldn't win 1v1, just that standing toe-toe is not realistic. As a clothie, I never try to stand next to a melee character and attempt to fight, rather I move around and away from them depending upon the situation. Can we win 1v1 against anyone in PvP? Of course. But letting melee beat on you while you try to get a cast off is not advisable. That is all I was getting at.

I also stand by my mantra of running away if necessary. It is better than a corpse run.
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Old June 30, 2009, 02:33 PM   #60 (permalink)

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yah, i am destro. i like it better for PVP, at least so far i do... the funny thing is at first i found myself running straight into the battle like i was a melee character, lol. then i realized i have range!! wohoo, so i can stay at a distance, that is until they rush me and knock me out then i get slaughtered.... but i found that i can stay alive staying at a distance and casting but it just seems like it takes forever for people to die. but anyway, i still have alot to learn, thanks for the support and tips as always you guys are the best!
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