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Old June 26, 2009, 03:48 PM   #11 (permalink)

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Re: Death Knights, Oh the Death Knights?

Yea he was ranting up a storm in guild chat last night
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Old June 26, 2009, 03:54 PM   #12 (permalink)

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3.1 Re: Death Knights, Oh the Death Knights?

That's good news! I started a DK just to play the beginning sequence. He has been sitting idle at level 58 for a while now... because I got bored with it. It seemed like I didn't have to DO anything. Death Grip, pull them in... disease them... swing a couple times... rinse and repeat. At level 58 I could capture every single battle sequence in a single macro.

(maybe not a fair analysis, but that's how I felt)
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Old June 26, 2009, 04:03 PM   #13 (permalink)

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Actually Deathknights are getting buffed

WoW -> Under Development -> Death Knight Q&A

DW is back
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Old June 26, 2009, 04:20 PM   #14 (permalink)

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very easy i dont know whats the big deal about DK i find them very Very easy

for destro use your succubus aka wip biatch when he does that grab thing on you like a wanna be jedi use your succubus's seduction allways keep suduction on manual not auto!

now you run away for some distance shock him with that shadow fury spell to stun him then you immolate, death coil(cause by the time immolate is up he will be coming at you) then conflagurate, incinerate the crap out of him . by the time deathcoil wears off you just nuked him to death and if he is still up just use fear but it is highly unlikely he will still be alive.

if your affliction hopefully you put points in howl of terror so when he does that you use howl of terror then fear then dot him and run then use curse of exaustion while the dots eat him up when he is down to 25% use drain soul to keep his soul for a souvenere


ps if he does army of the dead your screwed lol

*Everyone talks about death knights how powerful they are but remember one thing.....

Hero class dont mean squat if you got the skill a warlock can take any class down! Blizz knows this thats why we keep on getting nerfed. I firmly believe if it wasnt for rouges we Will be the most powerfull class in the game. period.

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Old June 26, 2009, 04:31 PM   #15 (permalink)

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3.1 Re: Death Knights, Oh the Death Knights?

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*Everyone talks about death knights how powerful they are but remember one thing.....

Hero class dont mean squat if you got the skill a warlock can take any class down! Blizz knows this thats why we keep on getting nerfed. I firmly believe if it wasnt for rouges we Will be the most powerfull class in the game. period.

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Old June 26, 2009, 04:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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3.1 Re: Death Knights, Oh the Death Knights?

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very easy i dont know whats the big deal about DK i find them very Very easy

for destro use your succubus aka wip biatch when he does that grab thing on you like a wanna be jedi use your succubus's seduction allways keep suduction on manual not auto!

now you run away for some distance shock him with that shadow fury spell to stun him then you immolate, death coil(cause by the time immolate is up he will be coming at you) then conflagurate, incinerate the crap out of him . by the time deathcoil wears off you just nuked him to death and if he is still up just use fear but it is highly unlikely he will still be alive.

if your affliction hopefully you put points in howl of terror so when he does that you use howl of terror then fear then dot him and run then use curse of exaustion while the dots eat him up when he is down to 25% use drain soul to keep his soul for a souvenere


ps if he does army of the dead your screwed lol

*Everyone talks about death knights how powerful they are but remember one thing.....

Hero class dont mean squat if you got the skill a warlock can take any class down! Blizz knows this thats why we keep on getting nerfed. I firmly believe if it wasnt for rouges we Will be the most powerfull class in the game. period.

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In your scenario you did not mention the DK Strangulating you, or using AMS, or Lichborne, or Mind Freezex2...but even if you had somehow mitigated through this and "nuked the hell out of him" during the duration of a Deathcoil (lol), he still has Runetap, Death Strikes, and Ghoul Sac to heal for FAR MORE than the amount of burst you can do in that time period.

The Death Knights you are facing must either be afk, or EXTREMELY terrible. I have both a DK and this lock, and my DK is better geared. I know how to face a DK as a Lock, and I know how to face a Lock as a DK, and the way you mention it is not how it usually goes down (unless the DK Deathgripped you and then just started fighting another target, lol...) Can a Warlock beat a Death Knight? Absolutely, however it is CLEAR that DK's have a significant advantage over Warlocks, and should never be "easy" unless you are far better gear AND far better skilled AND the DK in question sucks.

ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL (i.e., gear, skill, etc...) the following should be a true statement: DK>Rogue>Warlock. DK's will win most of the time, Rogues will win more of the time, Warlocks will win some of the time.

(PS~ As stated above I have both a DK and a Warlock with full epics in both PVP and PVE, but I also have a Rogue with about 27,000 HK's (fully epic in both PVP/PVE of course), so when I say that I think Rogues should be an easier kill than DK's as a Destro specced Warlock, I think I should have enough credibility to make such a claim.)
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Old June 26, 2009, 04:51 PM   #17 (permalink)

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Actually Deathknights are getting buffed

WoW -> Under Development -> Death Knight Q&A

DW is back
Where is the buff?

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(unless the DK Deathgripped you and then just started fighting another target, lol...)
LMAO

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ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL (i.e., gear, skill, etc...) the following should be a true statement: DK>Rogue>Warlock. DK's will win most of the time, Rogues will win more of the time, Warlocks will win some of the time.
Actually, it should go something like this:

DK>Rogue>Warlock>Mage
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Old June 26, 2009, 05:15 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Where is the buff?



LMAO



Actually, it should go something like this:

DK>Rogue>Warlock>Mage
LOL, but mages weren't included in this scenario.
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Old June 26, 2009, 07:35 PM   #19 (permalink)

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How do we feel about the current viability of dual-wielding? Are there plans to improve it or have it fit a specific role for the class?

Ghostcrawler:
This is a controversial topic because we realize some players just aren’t interested in dual-wielding (or seeing any death knights even do it), while others love the faster strikes that come with it. Our design has always been that dual-wielding should be an option, but that also means that it can’t take over, as it often does for classes in which we provide the option.

Part of our goal with the death knight was not to have a tanking or PvP tree, and we feel we’ve been pretty successful with that. However, adding dual-wield to that matrix just gives us an impossible task, because then you need to have the Blood dual-wield tank spec and the Frost two-hander PvP spec and so on.

What we are going to do with dual-wield in 3.2 is just provide the Frost tree with the talents necessary to prop-up dual wielding, including a new talent that lets Frost Strike, Death Strike, Obliterate etc. hit with both weapons. This will likely mean that Blood and Unholy dual-wield specs just won’t work anymore. It also carries the risk that all Frost death knights feel like they have to go dual-wield. This latter part isn’t necessarily a goal, but could be the outcome. We think in this case our only option is to remove some player choice in order to provide a real choice in other areas.

all the specials will proc off both weapons now.
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Old June 30, 2009, 03:23 AM   #20 (permalink)

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Re: Death Knights, Oh the Death Knights?

I am with Superproof, Dk can be nasty.
So a typical rotation for DK is deathgrip (no worries just an e ticket ride, but no damage), a good DK will go through the following rotation, AMZ (anti-magic zone), plaguestrike/bloodstrike yada. AMZ expires, strangualate, again with plaguestrike/bloodboil crap/, wohoo maybe we can cast now that strangualte expires (oops most are dead, but Blizz needs to get selling the game so DK won't be getting that nerfed), a lichborne may be tossed now with mind freeze, so more plaguestrike/bloodboil yada yada, ok now that 800 resilence has kicked in and you have 1 % health left in which to fight, so howl a fear DOT and since you are pissed and want this jerk running you toss another fear and just when you think you have a glimmer of hope for a kill...that damn unfearbale ghoul bitch slaps you

So what do I when i see a deathknight, I ambush his sorry arse...circle down from some place he can see me...I break out the crit trinket and seldom used soulfire/2 instant dots and DC (I hate to use it early but I want this guy running, I jump down beating my chest DOT his cheesy pet and fear again, reset my rotation with haunt, corruption, UA now run/sacrfice and watch him die at my feet....was it fair, probably not but warlocks are evil and he should get used to it
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