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Old July 04, 2009, 05:51 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Siphon
12 Undead Warlock
blood furnace US PvP
Guild: Dark Souls
Talent Spec: 03/17/00
3.1 I'm I hit capped at 29

Non-twink here...so stop giving me that look!

Anyway,I have 3 points in suppression,and I have no problem with my spells hitting humonoids etc... but while I was doing a WSG the other day,and even though with those points in suppresion,I was inspired to ask a question about my possibly raising my hit % even higher ,cause I had a hunters pets on me and I attempted to fear'em off of me 3 straight times...resist...resist...resist...like"Daaang! I know fear has been nerf to high heaven,but...Daaaaang!"

I sat there for like ever, trying to get that frackin tiger off my heels! is there any way thats known for me to get my hit % up even just a bit at such an low level?

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p.s I also have all of the PVP gear that you can have at that level.
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Old July 04, 2009, 07:16 PM   #2 (permalink)

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70 Undead Warlock
Neptulon Euro PvP
Guild: PuG

3.1 Re: I'm I hit capped at 29

I can't remember the exact name or what level talent it comes in at but a Beast Master hunter's pet can be immune to fear. Sounds to me that that is what you came up against.
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Old July 04, 2009, 09:15 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Siphon
12 Undead Warlock
blood furnace US PvP
Guild: Dark Souls
Talent Spec: 03/17/00
3.1 Re: I'm I hit capped at 29

wow!....really...but wait! he did evenually get feared,it just took me 3 attempts.
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Old July 05, 2009, 12:30 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Ugru
80 Orc Warlock
Moon Guard US RP PvE
Guild: Children of Eternity
Talent Spec: 3/13/54
3.1 Re: I'm I hit capped at 29

Resists, misses, dodges, blocks, and parries are all completely separate game mechanics. Hit rating has no effect whatsoever on resists.
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Old July 05, 2009, 05:42 AM   #5 (permalink)

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80 Orc Warlock
Barthilas US PvP
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Re: I'm I hit capped at 29

Hit rating is pve not pvp.
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Old July 05, 2009, 06:02 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Kalerender
80 Undead Warlock
Jubei'thos Oceania PvP
Guild: Rhythm

3.1 Re: I'm I hit capped at 29

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Hit rating is pve not pvp.
Incorrect, hit overcomes talented 'reduces chance to be hit' effects. Equal level also has a chance to miss, about 3 or 4% base if I recall which hit is used to overcome.

Resists of that magnitude may mean that the pet had shadow resist from talents? Not sure on pet talent trees, but if that is so spell penetration would be needed to overcome that.
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Old July 05, 2009, 07:02 AM   #7 (permalink)
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80 Undead Warlock
Stormreaver US PvP
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 53/1/17
Re: I'm I hit capped at 29

Hit rating stops misses not resists those were separated not to long ago in a patch. Now you will know if you need hit rating if it says Miss but if it says resist you need to pick up spell penetration or toss a CoE on them to lower their res (if you even get that at your level can't remember).
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Old July 06, 2009, 07:07 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Siphon
12 Undead Warlock
blood furnace US PvP
Guild: Dark Souls
Talent Spec: 03/17/00
3.1 Re: I'm I hit capped at 29

[QUOTE=Ugru;269487]Resists, misses, dodges, blocks, and parries are all completely separate game mechanics. Hit rating has no effect whatsoever on resists.


Even Misses?....you mean if i Miss someone ,my hit rating has nothing to do with that? wow!

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Hit rating is pve not pvp.

I'm sorry,I know I'm just a young level 29 Lock here,but this is wrong.

I've re-spec-ed several times (up to 40 G. a pop already) experimenting around to see which spec. seems more effective for me,and I've definitely noticed a difference In how often I hit/miss a player/pet with 3 points In Suppression rather than just 1 point.

I did an experiment where I put just one point In Suppression,and left the other 2 points on stand by,and went and did a BG,and after 5 minutes of noticing how often I was missing,during that same BG,I put the 2nd point in,and took note on, that even though I was still missing a bit ,it was less than with just one point,and after the 3rd point...even lesser still,yes I still do miss on occasion even with 3 points in,but its a less than with just one or two.

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Hit rating stops misses not resists those were separated not to long ago in a patch. Now you will know if you need hit rating if it says Miss but if it says resist you need to pick up spell penetration or toss a CoE on them to lower their res (if you even get that at your level can't remember).

So Spell Penetration is the key huh...Interesting


and CoE I don't get at 29,but its good to know for when I hit 39


P.S Now that I think of it,If actually spec'd just Affliction ,I think I could reach it.

Thanks.

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Old July 06, 2009, 10:19 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Ugru
80 Orc Warlock
Moon Guard US RP PvE
Guild: Children of Eternity
Talent Spec: 3/13/54
3.1 Re: I'm I hit capped at 29

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Resists, misses, dodges, blocks, and parries are all completely separate game mechanics. Hit rating has no effect whatsoever on resists.
If you read my post, you'll see that I said specifically that Hit rating has no effect on Resists. I did not say that Hit rating had no effect on misses. You simply read my post incorrectly. I was pointing out that resists, misses, doges, parries, and blocks are all treated as different game mechanics.

Your misses are directly related to your Hit rating.
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Old July 31, 2009, 09:16 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Siphon
12 Undead Warlock
blood furnace US PvP
Guild: Dark Souls
Talent Spec: 03/17/00
3.1 Re: I'm I hit capped at 29

UPDATE!

I wanted to give the den an update cause i think I've may have found an answer to my problem wit Hunter's pets,and this will be good for those who are also just starting to BG wit a lock ... someone earlier mentioned "spell penetration" was key(i want to thank Peligro ),and so while buying some potions from the BG vendor in Arathi Hieghts,I noticed that there was another trinket avalible to buy..."Rune Of Perfection" which has 10 SP penetration,this along with 3 PTs in Suppresion,has made it alot easier to get those pesky pets off of me ,in the five days I've had it,and BG'in several hours per day,I've only once had to attempt a fear twice in order to get a pet off of me.


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