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July 24, 2009, 12:06 PM
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CoE & 2v2 Aff. Vs Destro Questionnnns
Hey!, Ok,.. So 80+ spell penetration is the way to go. But considering that I have CoE on every target I'm hitting do you think I still need to go that high? Second - I was hoping to get some feedback from Aff. specced arena players. I'm currently destro and do 2's with a druid. Destro gets nice crits and plays well with my CC. However, I have a love affair with affliction (it' so fun to play!) and so many top players do too - but when I play Afflic. the damage just seems so weak! Could anyone offer some arena tips for this build? Last edited by shabop; July 24, 2009 at 12:17 PM.. |
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July 24, 2009, 12:10 PM
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Chiarlo 80 Blood Elf Warlock Arathor US PvE Guild: What a Toon Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 51/2/18 |
Re: CoE & 2v2 Aff. Vs Destro Questionnnns
Both of my specs are affliction builds, for pvp and pve. If you look at my armory profile, you can see what I did for pvp. I haven't done much 2v2 with it, but I prefer it to the destro build I was running previously, mainly because of the CC I get with it, and the survivability is just so much higher. Note, my glyphs aren't right yet, I've been experimenting with them and haven't found the right ones for this build yet. |
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July 24, 2009, 12:47 PM
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Belthezor 80 Blood Elf Warlock Draenor US PvE PvP Guild: BCBuds Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 56/0/15 |
Re: CoE & 2v2 Aff. Vs Destro Questionnnns
I am an Affliction arena player. Haven't done much this season. only 308 matches (1533 rating) but hopefully will get more battles in soon. My partner is a Disc. Priest, and when I tried out destro I found I was much burstier but as affliction my damage is normally off the charts. Thats probably because they died so much quicker as destro  That can be a good thing, but really any good healer will dispell immolate so taht you can't use conflag and thats why I found happening a lot. With out conflag destro realy isn't worth it. Also as 2s is often times an los game casting tended to be an issue for me. I was extremely glad to respec back to Affliction. The World of Warcraft Armory is my armory. As you can see I am using Glyph of Siphon Life, Unstable Affliction and Fear. Two pretty popular strategies as affliction are: 1. CC the healer and dps the other down. 2. DoT up both, putting pressure on the healer to heal. I run with a Disc Priest and we tend to do the 2nd. He mana bursts their healer and also puts his dots up on them too. We have found this to be very effective for us. But it depends on your play style. Other important things are to fear when you can at crucial moments. When your healer needs breathing room. When the healer is about to cast a big heal on the dps (death coil works for me here as its instant). Basically though for big damage make sure your dots are up on them all the time. Don't use CoE as affliction, use Curse of Agony. CoE is great for destro as its quick, but affliction is a bit slower. The full Curse of Agony will hurt them bad
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July 29, 2009, 01:12 PM
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Re: CoE & 2v2 Aff. Vs Destro Questionnnns
Alright - I didn't want to post anything until I could try it out. So I do 2's with a druid and when I switched it was def. a different play style. We lost about 3 in a row. But then we won 8 in a row. LoS is no longer such a MAJOR issue. With destro. fights could turn into follow the leader with no damange being done as I chased down a healer and they got back up, but now if it turns into that at least there's dots ticking and I can do drains. Mana draining healers ESP. druids is awesomly awesome. Lovin it. |
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July 29, 2009, 01:47 PM
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Bonhoeffer 80 Blood Elf Warlock Misha US PvE Guild: Amicus Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: CoE & 2v2 Aff. Vs Destro Questionnnns
I'm a pve lock, looking to get back into pvp. I have a 800 resil set. I want to play affliction and have a couple questions. Which curse? Back in the day it was always Curse of Agony, unless you needed exhaustion. Does affliction have any use for CoE, CoT really? Opening move, suggested rotation? Is it still best to open with fear? When do you use haunt? When do you use UA? Drain life? If I have my target dotted up and feared, is it time for drain life? I'm thinking SB is a negative, unless nightfall procs. Thanks! |
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July 31, 2009, 05:22 AM
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Iazt 80 Undead Warlock Burning Steppes Euro PvP Guild: Pinkertons Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: CoE & 2v2 Aff. Vs Destro Questionnnns
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Opening moves i don't really know about, nice to have UA atleast to try to prevent a dispel. When i PVP:d as aff I used DL or DS (if they're under 25%) instead of SB as it as such a long cast time. |
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July 31, 2009, 10:12 AM
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Trixtian 80 Human Warlock Kilrogg Euro PvE Guild: Pax Romano Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: CoE & 2v2 Aff. Vs Destro Questionnnns
I play as affliction and just run BG. havnt set my foot in arena yet coz I have no good partner... My normal rotation for almost every class looks like this: CoE-Corr-Fear-Haunt-UA-Fear-DS/DL renew dots if needed. I sometimes change the CoE to CoEx if they try to run from me and have good hp left. That to renew Haunt and get that Corr back up =) And ofc aply UA last coz of the dispel thingy. :p If I get melee on me or several players too close I simply HoT and fear one of them and aply all my dots on that same target, when he's doted up I got for the next one. And I always roll with Demon armor. I got no time to switch when a melee hits me and that +armor and to get 20% more hp back from SL + haunt + DL I dont say no to. I find CoE very useful in BG coz they almost never dispel that since it does no damage in it self. However all magic users will benefit from it. So if you die for some reason and a mage fill your spot he have 13% damage increase as well =) That's just my thoughts on Aff. =) |
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July 31, 2009, 10:33 AM
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Bonhoeffer 80 Blood Elf Warlock Misha US PvE Guild: Amicus Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: CoE & 2v2 Aff. Vs Destro Questionnnns
Thanks guys I'm really enjoying affliction in bgs. It may not pwn in arena, but fear with a glyph still works out pretty well in bgs.
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July 31, 2009, 10:40 AM
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Iazt 80 Undead Warlock Burning Steppes Euro PvP Guild: Pinkertons Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: CoE & 2v2 Aff. Vs Destro Questionnnns
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Affliction rocks in BG:s. Though I respecced to Destro as my pvp-specc yesterday cause I really felt I did no good in Arena. I run 2v2 mostly with a Frostmage and it feels that in Arena you just have to have burst to do any good. 
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July 31, 2009, 04:32 PM
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Lopennie 80 Gnome Warlock Draenor US PvE Guild: Paradox Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 54/17/0 |
Re: CoE & 2v2 Aff. Vs Destro Questionnnns
The amount of spell power you want is 130. To do deal with those pesky Mages. The reason is your CoE will probably be resisted if you're not at or close to the 130 mark. I also play affliction in arenas. I'm at a 2126 3v3 rating atm, and helping a friend get 1850 in 2s. Who is a resto druid. There are some comps who I feel would be a lot easier to beat with the destruction burst, but the way affliction is played is to outlast your opponents. Affliction is weaker in a sense of burst, but what it lacks in burst it gains in survivability and multi target pressure. So the playstyle takes a little more effort to pull off well, but can be a lot more rewarding then just trying to blow up 1 target(though it can work too.) So some tips. Make sure you keep all your dots up on both targets. Use your fears and druids cyclones for even more pressure. Drain mana is probably your best friend against healers or casters in general.
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