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August 15, 2009, 12:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
Aishyri Character Info Aishyri 80 Gnome Warlock Stonemaul US PvP Talent Spec: 0/13/58	Re: Supernex to the rescue? That's pretty dang cool, Supe! Trying it today, thanks a bunch!

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August 15, 2009, 04:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
bryan06 Character Info Yaboy 80 Blood Elf Warlock Misha US PvE Guild: Phoenix	Re: Supernex to the rescue? Just want to add my input on the pets. ALL warlock pets are viable for PVP, including the imp. Aganist melee teams that want to train the pet, especially if my healer cant seem to keep it up, I summon a phased imp. The imp cant be targeted, attacked, nor healed (except for health funnel) but you still get the mitigation for SL so it's pretty useful. You only have to remember to Health funnel whenever it gets low.

August 15, 2009, 05:37 PM

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Supernex

Status: Sit vis vobiscum.

Character Info
Supernex
80 Gnome Warlock
Drak'thul US PvP
Guild: Epic Drops
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/20/51

Re: Supernex to the rescue?

I just posted this in another thread, but I figured I could post it here too:
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I play a Rogue, DK and my Warlock. This is how I would rate the PVP pets on each of these toons...

As a Warlock (Destro):
#1 - Succubus (useful against most classes)
#2 - Fel Hunter (useful against many classes)
#3 - VW (bubble is nice, but no substitute for Seduce against melee - unless running flag in BG's, IMO)

As a Warlock (Affliction):
#1 - Fel Hunter (has better synergy with Affliction's playstyle IMO, I use the FH 99.9% as Affliction)
#2 & 3 - Succubus or VW are about equal IMO...) TIE

As a Warlock (Demo):
#1 - Felguard...need I say more?

As a Rogue (vs. Warlock):
#1 - Succubus (easiest to kill, yes, but without a doubt the best demon against Rogues if used properly.)
#2 - VW (Sacrifice is nice, but it really isn't all that big of an obstacle when compared to Seduce.)
#3 - Fel Hunter (useless...)

As a DK (vs. Warlock):
#1 & 2 - Probably a toss up between the Fel Hunter and Succubus...somewhat depends on spec. If I spec Lichborne it diminishes the impact of Seduce significantly as I can usually down the Warlock in the duration of a Strangulate and Lichborne.
#3 - VW (Again, Sacrifice while a decent damage mitigator, really should only take 2 globals max to take down, so it doesn't really make a HUGE difference in the fight against a Warlock, IMO. I have crit for close to 10k with Scourge Strike (Unholy), Frost Strike (Frost) and Obliterate (Frost or Blood) in PVP against at least partially Hateful geared players, so figure 1 crit Strike to take down the bubble if not talented, 2 globals if talented.)

I could break down the advantages/disadvantages to specifics/tactics/team comps (arena), but for now this should suffice for a generality.

**NOTE: The only real situation where I would prefer the VW to any other pet would be against a Feral Druid. Warriors, Rogues, and Paladins I would MUCH prefer a Succubus, and a DK I would prefer either a Succubus or Fel Hunter.

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Originally Posted by bryan06

Just want to add my input on the pets. ALL warlock pets are viable for PVP, including the imp. Aganist melee teams that want to train the pet, especially if my healer cant seem to keep it up, I summon a phased imp. The imp cant be targeted, attacked, nor healed (except for health funnel) but you still get the mitigation for SL so it's pretty useful. You only have to remember to Health funnel whenever it gets low.

I could see a use for that, but I would hate to give up the much needed utility of another pet by blowing a Fel Dom on an Imp. Usually, when my pet is being trained my healer can keep it up long enough for me (or another teammate) to CC their healer and we can put serious pressure on the DPS - or kill one - while they are trying to down a pet. Even if they do succeed at killing the pet (and they usually do), it came at a great cost to them, and I can just Fel Dom another one. (The only time I have had a problem with this strategy is if I play against a RMP, as they have superior CC...but then again, I find it somewhat rare that a RMP will go for my pet first, as they usually target my healer or Rogue first - RLS.)

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August 15, 2009, 05:52 PM	#14 (permalink)
bryan06 Character Info Yaboy 80 Blood Elf Warlock Misha US PvE Guild: Phoenix	Re: Supernex to the rescue? well with fel dom being on a reduced cd now, the imp isnt that useful anymore. i never wasted a dom on summoning him, i'd just port away and hard res one while my fel was being cleaved to hell.

September 08, 2009, 02:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
robzilla Character Info Robzilla 80 Undead Warlock bloodscalp US PvP Guild: THE BEST Talent Spec: 0/20/51	Re: Supernex to the rescue? theere is a rediculously good destro training viedo out there, i think it is on the front page of this website, but its (somebodysname, i forgot who) desrtuction duel guide 2 so just youtube destruction duel guide 2 if you cant find it. very helpful, ive been playing destro for a while and still learned a little from it also to note: DKs can be silenced!!! i rape DKs now since i learned that. if you can silence them b4 they pop lichborne, you immediately put them on defence, also when you spell lock them (silence :P) they cant grip you Last edited by robzilla; September 08, 2009 at 02:12 PM..

September 08, 2009, 06:35 PM	#16 (permalink)
Liox Character Info Liox 80 Gnome Warlock Dethecus Euro PvP Talent Spec: 54/17/0	Re: Supernex to the rescue? A little advice at least: If I play against destruction locks there are to possibilitys to effectivly counter them. First is to interrupt Immolate from the start if counterspell is ready. If you meet an enemy like a Warlock with Felhunter or a Mage at distance or any Melee at Meleerange. Dont try to get your first Immolatecast. Cast it about 0,8 Secs and jump or move. That's called a fakecast, which means faking that you want to cast to avoid a counterspell on your firecastscool. Second is to dispel Immolate immediately while dotting or fearing him. So like someone before posted. Try to CC first probably with a Shadowfury. I have problems against destrulocks which I suddenly meet in BG and can't get enough distance to my felhunter which trys to attack the lock. The usual following is an Immolate which can't be dispelled cause I'm AND my pet are stunned and i'm getting a Conflag right away. That doesn't mean I loose but it gives trouble though. Take that in mind if you play against classes who can dispell themselves.

September 08, 2009, 07:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
Murderbug	Re: Supernex to the rescue? try casting Chaos Bolt after Immolate and before Conflagrate to get maximum burst. Reason being your CB and Conflag will hit at the same time. If you can manage a searing pain after CB that's even more burst. the challenge here is that your immolate may be dispelled by the time you hit conflag, so be aware.

September 11, 2009, 02:48 PM	#18 (permalink)
Heatbabz Character Info Facerollz 80 Blood Elf Warlock Kazzak Euro PvP Guild: Second to None Talent Spec: 3/13/55	Re: Supernex to the rescue? This (these) video(s) will give you alot of handy info that will show to be usefull! - Atleast it helped me alot - and I have no doubt in my mind that you will find this very handy aswell. Also in addition, it's a really great video - nice editing, cool effects etc. And this dude has mad skillz ;). Enjoy YouTube - Destruction Duel Guide 2 by zUkUu -1/4- YouTube - Destruction Duel Guide 2 by zUkUu -2/4- YouTube - Destruction Duel Guide 2 by zUkUu -3/4- YouTube - Destruction Duel Guide 2 by zUkUu -4/4- Last edited by Heatbabz; September 11, 2009 at 03:11 PM..

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