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Old August 12, 2009, 03:06 PM   #1 (permalink)

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3.2 Resilience change pointless?

With the new resilience changes being welcomed by some classes (mainly ours) after numerous bg's wpvp and arena I see no benefit, I die as often and kill as often.

With Totc now giving melee even better PvE gear and heroic farming adding to this it seems that what little benefit the res change made has been completely undone by the amount of better PvE gear readily available.

Anyone else thinking the same or do others find its easier in bg's etc now?
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Old August 12, 2009, 03:33 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Draenor US PvE
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Re: Resilience change pointless?

I've personally never found BGs hard. Though I have noticed a slight difference in survivability.
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Old August 12, 2009, 04:32 PM   #3 (permalink)

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3.2 Re: Resilience change pointless?

I've started dying a lot more, and my gear is flawless apart from one trink..
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Old August 12, 2009, 05:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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3.2 Re: Resilience change pointless?

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I've started dying a lot more, and my gear is flawless apart from one trink..
22k health and 702 resil is okay, albeit a bit low (especially now that it takes about 15% more resil to get the same crit benefit...)...but why do you not have a PVP trinket??
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Old August 12, 2009, 09:13 PM   #5 (permalink)

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3.2 Re: Resilience change pointless?

well..825(yes my resi got buffed) resi..and 305 soul link and a pro holy prot healer..i stil got wtf pwnd by a T8.5 rogue...

BLIZZ sort this shit out xD

rogues have always been our caounter but..cmon....
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Old August 13, 2009, 04:53 AM   #6 (permalink)

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3.2 Re: Resilience change pointless?

uh, i for one never have any trouble whatsoever in bg's, for the past two weeks every single BG i got into i managed to land rank 1-2 (max 3) in overall damage done/KB's/hks, was like 1 kill away from wrecking ball ._.

also, the buffs to shamans indirectly buffed warlocks arena-wise, so I strongly suggest you try doing 2's with a shaman or 3's as RLS, you'll see a great difference


affliction still sucks however, destro trumps it by far, damage output is still quite insane.
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Old August 14, 2009, 05:37 PM   #7 (permalink)

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3.2 Re: Resilience change pointless?

Have to say that since the patch I've been easy prey for rogues, it may be partly down to the fact that I haven't pvp'd as much recently but they're tearing me up in seconds again, and there's NOTHING I can do. I know how to play my lock, I'm reasonably well geared (741 res), and I'm mostly dead. Rogues, DK's and cat bloody druids....

All I see these day's is 'stun' 'silence' 'release spirit?'
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Old August 14, 2009, 05:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Dark Iron US PvP
Guild: Allmacht
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Re: Resilience change pointless?

I can't really judge as I've recently hit the 800 Resilience club. And since I just did that, I don't have much experience to compare this level of play with pre-patch play at this level. However, I have noticed that I do not die very fast at all. In fact it seems to take real effort for people to actually kill me.

In one recent WG battle, my Pally friend (who was on the other side of a tower during a tower run while we were on defense) was getting hit hard and called me to help. I got there a tad to late and saw that roughly 8 alliance players had just slaughtered him. I ran through the group of them hitting iHoT and Shadowflame as I ran, I ducked inside the tower and ran up the tower as I dotted anybody I could. Once at the top, I jumped off and ran back up the tower as they all jumped after me. We did this about three times (I even killed one of them) before I took a right turn after I dropped down to slip out a side exit and got pulled back in by a DK. They swarmed me at that point, and I still lived long enough to cast two more spells with 7 Allies hitting me. I did have a VW shield up at that moment, and it was a talented shield, but typically I've seen those drop with a single hit in the past. This one held through a few hits.

Over all, I lasted a lot longer than I expected.
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Old August 14, 2009, 05:58 PM   #9 (permalink)

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3.2 Re: Resilience change pointless?

Just wait til S7 Weps :(
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Old August 14, 2009, 11:42 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Re: Resilience change pointless?

Just a small note. Rogues generally will not get any easier to beat unless you have 800+ resil. between 700-800 is ok, but you really want to get past that 800 mark and close to 900
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