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Old August 17, 2009, 02:29 PM   #11 (permalink)

3.2 Re: Battlegrounds ruined by 3.2

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You don't get any XP from kills. You get XP based on your side achieving BG objectives.

In AV, whenever a tower burns or Galv/Drek die you get a chunk of XP. For my 74 lock, I get about 18k per tower, maybe 150k XP for an AV win with all towers down.

I tried the other BGs, they all gave much less XP than AV. Even worse, the queues in the 71-79 bracket are very slow (took me 30 mins to get into EotS and then we only had 3 players on my side). Whereas 71-80 AV queue is generally under 1 min for me.
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Old August 17, 2009, 03:36 PM   #12 (permalink)

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Ysera US PvE
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Re: Battlegrounds ruined by 3.2

hmm, I might gear my warrior out at 79 and pvp for the heck of it.
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Old August 17, 2009, 04:28 PM   #13 (permalink)

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Re: Battlegrounds ruined by 3.2

Eh, the downside of the XP in AV means that the 71-80 bracket is now full of low 70s players.

Which means the team that brings a group of 3-5 level 80s who stick together can dominate the playing field. It also ends up turning into long, drawn-out conflicts.

They need to put the 80s into their own bracket, just like most other BGs.

I love AV... but not since patch 3.2.
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Old August 17, 2009, 07:15 PM   #14 (permalink)

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Re: Battlegrounds ruined by 3.2

Best thing that has happened to AV imho. Bring on the free HKs!
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Old August 17, 2009, 08:11 PM   #15 (permalink)

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Re: Battlegrounds ruined by 3.2

Not to be harsh, but if a lower player plans on entering my BG then they must accept the consequences. I have no problems with them getting XP, it's a pretty neat idea IMO, but I will not hesitate at all to obliterate them.

And enjoy every second of it!
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Old August 17, 2009, 08:50 PM   #16 (permalink)

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Re: Battlegrounds ruined by 3.2

I have been in PvE mode since the patch, but am starting to get back into PvP a bit more again (PvE can only last so long after all;)). Anyway the daily was AV, so I sort of groaned as we NEVER win that, but then I was shocked.. All that is being said about AV here is totally true. It was filled with lowbies using it as a way to gain XP. For me in in Deadly gear being my lowest level pvp gear I was in heaven

My friend was on his alt, level 71, and said he didn't even mind because the xp was worth being slaughtered over and over again. I would argue that this is a good move. Everyone was more worried about objectives then HKs, and its been a long while since that has happened. I am so used to everyone cappnig and running without defending or recapping, but this was great. People capped and defended. No xp if you loose the node after all.

Of course this is all based on 71+.. for lower brackets I can't comment, but if it makes people actually try to work toward the objectives instead of HK farm, I am all for it.
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Old August 17, 2009, 11:05 PM   #17 (permalink)

Re: Battlegrounds ruined by 3.2

I haven't noticed an overall change in strategy. Basically Bad Horde teams, PVE race and lose. Good Horde teams defend and recap. Any racing through the bridge chokepoint gets defeated down quickly.

I have noticed people complain about the lack of 80's. Like a crutch as to why they lose. Both Alliance and Horde are filled with lower levels. Some especially well geared 78's and 79's are a match for a recent 80. But I agree, a level change of 71-79 is warranted. Change the raid bosses in the category to 75 raid bosses.

I also wondered if anyone ever plays that strand of the ancients. The queue times are usually terrible.
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Old August 29, 2009, 09:15 PM   #18 (permalink)

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3.2 Re: Battlegrounds ruined by 3.2

Its true there are some 80s in the 70+ bracket, but not many, and when you get to 80 almost every bg you jump is all 80s. theres just so many they overflow into 70+ so the bgs keep moving and people dont sit in queue for 30 minutes waiting for that one more 70-79 player. Thats their reasoning anyway, I personally think the bracket should be 70-79 and leave the 80s all together.

I'd like to point out that if you are having this problem its not really that big of a deal. If you have xp turned on you'll be 80 within a week especially with the BG XP getting buffed shortly (to be closer to AVs current amounts) So just stick it out (though you may still find things unbalanced at 80 till you get some real 80 gear). And if your crying cause your a twink then I say you might as well shut up now because twinking in itself is just trying to take advantage of the system to beat other players who really should be on the same level as you, so stop being a cheap d*** and get good at 80 pvp, since its fast to get there now.

They put the xp eliminator in so you wouldn't get unbalanced by leveling through bg xp before you were done questing if thats what you were trying to do, not so you could take advantage of being in bgs where you had an unfair advantage over the people you were being paired up with by amassing gear prematurely.

I'd like to add that if your not a twinking asshole, and you still believe there really is something wrong with the way your bgs are going, have a look at your servers Battle Group. Im on Nightfall and the alliance generally wins significantly more than horde. If your having a really hard time you might consider server change to a different battle group.

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Old August 30, 2009, 03:30 AM   #19 (permalink)

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3.2 Re: Battlegrounds ruined by 3.2

I have a level 49 rogue that I twinked out pretty good nad couldn't wait till 3.2 to turn off XP and go against other twinks. But ya the extremely long Qs suck. I recently found a post on 49 Twinks.com - Wow twinking guides for lvl 49s about the ruin battlegroup. They have quite a few twink only guilds for all different brackets and from what I've seen don't have to wait long if at all for Qs in the evenings. I was thinking of transfering my rogue over to a server in that battlegroup. Anyone interested check out the wow forums for the ruin battlegroup or the post on 49 Twinks.com - Wow twinking guides for lvl 49s for a directory of guilds and number of players on each side.
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Old September 03, 2009, 04:01 PM   #20 (permalink)

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Spinebreaker Euro PvP
Guild: Menace to Soiciety
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3.2 Re: Battlegrounds ruined by 3.2

To be honest, I love the BG exp for lvling my lower toons. I had always hated questing with a vengance, so this was a real breath of fresh air
The only issue I dislike is the timed wsg. I go into BGs to kill allys and have fun doing so, not to capture flags.
This brings me to something more offtopic about BGs as a whole.
When i first started on a player vs player realm, I expected nice big battles (in a very nooby way). I wanted to kill the opposing faction to put it plainly, but I ended up spending hours a day capturing flags, driving tanks, manning turrets and 'deffing' nodes. -.- And for what ^^?
To spend my hard earnt points on a newly brought out set!.. exactly the same as the one I have, but in red or blue
Rant over. hehe ^^
Overall, pleased with the changes.
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