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October 21, 2009, 06:47 AM
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Launam 80 Undead Warlock Stormrage Euro PvE |
Warlock/Rogue 2v2
After getting back into PvP and gearing up I decided to start 2v2ing with a Rogue, currently running a 0/20/51 destro spec. What tips would you give when coming up against certain teams? Seem to have trouble with Pally/Warrior and Elemental shammys are a pain too. Tend to use the shadow stun ability (the name escapes me atm) then fear them away then continue to immolate, incinerate, conflaguate and chaos bolt them, using death coil to give me a few seconds fear/heal. Usually try to banish the healer if he's a druid too and if I'm up against another rogue, the rogue partner and I tend to nuke that. Mainly it's just tips against certain matchups that you guys know from experience and also, could someone explain to me focus and mouseover fearing? I'm guessing that focus fearing is fearing the target you have when you right click ---> Focus. But can anyone explain how to mouseover fear? Many thanks. |
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October 22, 2009, 02:27 PM
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hottpants 80 Undead Warlock illidan US PvP Guild: ghouls gone wild Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Warlock/Rogue 2v2
there are actually 2 guides for this on arena junkies. but i can only find one at the moment. i jsut started playing this and am really liking it. hope it works for you. [Guide] Warlock/Rogue 2v2 - Arena Junkies Forums let me know if you have questions about specific matchups. |
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October 22, 2009, 07:31 PM
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Re: Warlock/Rogue 2v2
I am certainly not qualified to answer in general since we just started to learn this combo. However I find that Pally and Warr aren't a big deal. What I usually do I seduce the Pally - I specced for instant seduce just for this combo and DK. Since the usual scenario is you get charged by the warrior there is nothing else you can do. Sometimes we also sap but I find that to be riskier. So I seduce as many times as I can -pally usually blows both the trinket and the buble. If not even better. What happens depends on whether the warrior starts bladestorming us. since the pally is CCed that BS is pretty much warted since I run out of it, if he hamstrings you or something just port to safety and keep casting while hes geting closer. conflag as soon as possible for the daze. By that time the combined DPS of the rogue and you should have brought the war down. If they are very skilled or geared or something goes wrong you need to switch to fellpuppy or VW after the third seduce. She is OOM and useless. if your good on health get puppy for silencing the pally otherwise get the VW. since both trinket and buble are gone hes hosed. Just remember that you cant fear him for a while since seduce and fear are on same diminishing returns. you still have death coil and shadowfury use them well and alternate with daze and silence. Its relatively tough fight but its doable 100% of the time if done right. Keep them dotted at all times - switch to CoE before starting the nuking. There is little margin for error with this combo but as I said if done properly its doable every time. |
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October 22, 2009, 07:55 PM
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Re: Warlock/Rogue 2v2
I pulled this combo to 1450 rating in one night. The basic idea is to nuke down the most vulnerable target while keeping the other cc'ed. Usually we go for the DPS and cc the healer, exception being shaman healers. If we see a shaman we'll try to cc through the heroism and then start the fight over when hero is done. Then we usually nuke the shammy (unless the dps is a clothie or a rogue). Fear paladins, they are your bane. If you face a team with a reti pala, he must be forced to bubble asap. No exception. When he pops bubble switch target.
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October 23, 2009, 10:14 AM
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hottpants 80 Undead Warlock illidan US PvP Guild: ghouls gone wild Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Warlock/Rogue 2v2
a lot of people have trouble with rogue priest, and the giude i linked said take out the rogue first, but we have found that doesnt really work so well. the idea is to open on the priest with your cw buff still up, consume shadows, and then when the rogue pops on me i just have to survive the shield and then get a cc on the rogue and my rogue has already almomst downed the priest by himself. most of the time in this setup, i find that my rogue is usually the major killer and i need to be much more concerned about cc. i can just let him go wild on a target and i can sit and wait for the next cc. DO NOT to chase around a priest, drood, shaman hoping for the kill shot while you're letting the cc on the other player expire. keep your cc, trust that your rogue will be able to shut down almost any healer. one team we have a bunch of problems with is mage rogue. and this shouldnt really be a problem, but we havent worked it out exactly quite right yet. you absolutely MUST, i cannot stress this enough, your rogue must get the opener on the opposing rogue. the warlock opens on the mage, just ccing him as muh as possible and putting out damage and making the rogue pop. your rogue stays hidden until the enemy rogue opens on you, and then your rogue tears the other to peices. we have also been having some problems with ret paly/rogue teams. i really dont know what to do here, any help woudl be greatly appreciated. |
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October 23, 2009, 11:05 AM
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AballahSonDi 80 Human Warlock Alexstraza US PvE Guild: StormpikeShocktroopers Profile: Talent Spec: 56/0/15 |
Re: Warlock/Rogue 2v2
We started a 2's team a few weeks ago with me and a rogue. (we also have a druid and another rogue as fillins). We broke 1000 fairly quick. Now we are getting alot of Mage/Priest and Priest/Rogue teams and they are truly a challenge. The mage can essentially keep me cc'd/silenced the length of the fight. We might change tactics and go for the mage instead of the priest. I do know that when we are "clicking" in there we can down people really fast. Rogue does "blind" on healer and than i stun dps and down they go. We gave up 3 matches last night that we had won just because I couldn't get the freakin fear off. I guess this isn't advice just adding my problems to the list as well. |
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October 23, 2009, 09:33 PM
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hottpants 80 Undead Warlock illidan US PvP Guild: ghouls gone wild Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Warlock/Rogue 2v2
rogue/priest teams you should farm all day. get out your void, pop consume shadows, your rogue saps the opposing rogue then gets directly on the priest. you also jump on the priest burning as much as possible while watching the duration of the sap. as soon as the rogue's free, shadowfury and fear, he will break it with trink, fear again=dead priest. the guide says to train the rogue, but we have found that we are not able to keep the priest cced enough to score a kill on the rogue, so we just pop trinkets and blow up the priest. hope that helps. one last thing, to anyone attempting arenas, the two following addons are absolutely essential. afflicted 3 Afflicted 3 - Addons - Curse and gladius Gladius - Addons - Curse |
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October 25, 2009, 03:09 PM
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Kobekid 80 Human Warlock Kilrogg US PvE Guild: Good With Ketchup Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Warlock/Rogue 2v2
Played this to 2100ish before, nothing too serious. You almost always want to kill the DPS with rogue/lock. Exceptions are teams with priest healers, where it's sometimes viable to kill the priest. Saps are pretty key if you can land one on the healer, then open up quickly on the DPS. The sap should lead into an easy fear (shadowfury if you're having trouble getting this off). Refear/spell lock, etc while nuking the DPS and he should die. Not too complex. As for pet, a lot of people like voidwalker and succubus, but Felhunter is too valuable with the dispel and silence. What you can do is start with a voidwalker and then as the gates open use Sacrifice and hard summon a felhunter. If you want to play this comp at a high level, it involves some switching and resetting the fight (resetting isn't as easy though as in mage/rogue). Here's how you switch against something like warrior/druid. Start off on warrior and nuking him. Shadowfury/deathcoil the druid to catch him in a fear. You might have to refear and spell lock, but a trinket should come from the druid, as well as the warrior trinketing a kidney. Wait a few seconds for kidney to be back on CD. Blind the warrior and hard switch to the druid. Druid will have no hots on himself and sitting in a full stunlock while the warrior is blinded. This should be game, especially if since you can follow the kidney w/ a spell lock/death coil/shadowfury. Last edited by Canadianpimp; October 25, 2009 at 03:12 PM.. |
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