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Old February 04, 2010, 03:29 PM   #1 (permalink)

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rynio
80 Undead Warlock
Burning Legion Euro PvP
Guild: visionnaire
Profile: Blizzard Armory
3.3 3.3 destro dead ?

in last season i was doing quite good with my lock 2.1 with frost mage in 2s and around 1850 in 3s in rls with a shamy who was only doing bl and afking
im talking about destro spec..
is it just me or destro is dead in 3.3 ? or is it about that resi buff ?
i was playing some arenas with my rogue and we started with 1-4 and im like wtf?
criting with confl for 3k and chaos bolting for 3.5 k... wtf ?
me and rogue we nuked warrior and the fight was like 2 on 1 on dudu and we lost .... we couldnt nuke druid couse i was making hits for 2k he was around ~1.1k resi

any of you guys had same experience or is it me? : O tbh we were just checking is destro + rogue still good at arenas i wasnt in a good build or with good glyphs but anyways 3k crit from conf its a laugh
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Old February 05, 2010, 01:47 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Volkes
80 Human Warlock
Smolderthorn US PvP
Profile: ArmoryLite
3.3 Re: 3.3 destro dead ?

Hmmm ... I think youre 3.5k Chaos Bolt isn't normal and I can assure you that this has nothing to do with the resilience change.... (First Post BTW) I'm doing 2's with my RLF (Disc Priest) and i have about none experience in Arena!

Still i can crit for like an easy 6k (And by easy i really mean easy) on an 800 resilience warrior! Since s8 i've been doing a lot of BG and like one session of arena and it seems to me that everything was alright!

And if you want to armory me, you'll see that i'm not OP i have like Full Deadly set and 2.5k SP so ... I can't explain y you where critting for less then me even if my opponent weren't as strong as yours!

Feel free to correct if i'm wrong but maybe you have downrank spell!!!! IDK
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Old February 08, 2010, 07:40 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Kazaud
80 Gnome Warlock
Deathwing US PvP
Guild: Saturday Warriors
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3.3 Re: 3.3 destro dead ?

If you are just starting I would guess the people you play have much less res.

I've also noticed a huge damage nerf in arena. I think it is normal. I play aff with disc priest and before we had to watch out for dual dps. Now dual dps means little. Rarely can they bust enough to kill one of us.
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Old February 09, 2010, 01:16 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Ohsoevil
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Whisperwind US PvE
Guild: CobraKai
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3.3 Re: 3.3 destro dead ?

I'm running destro/druid in 2s atm.

cyclone/seduce on priests/pallies is pretty funny still.

shadowfury is still as strong as ever and our burst is still good enough to kill classes like shamans, warlocks, rogues (if you fakecast them enough). I don't, however, think destro will be a team that can break much more than 2k.

however im gearing haste instead of crit. i feel that more throughput and faster casts > crits now with the huge damage reduction and crit chance reduction that resil provides.

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Old February 09, 2010, 07:04 PM   #5 (permalink)

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85 Goblin Warlock
SkullCrusher US PvP
Guild: Legion
Talent Tree: Destruction
Re: 3.3 destro dead ?

I havent noticed many differences from PVP before till now. At least in BGs im still critting for over 10k regularly, Of course in BGs the standard amount of Resil is a lot less. I split some of my gear from straight PVP so I can have the needed 10% hit cap. I sit at about 700 resil with 2700sp with my set up if I remember correctly. I only have the actual armor pieces most of my off pieces are PVE hence the extra SP.
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Old February 09, 2010, 09:00 PM   #6 (permalink)

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80 Orc Warlock
The Scryers US RP Guild: Red Dawn
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3.3 Re: 3.3 destro dead ?

I don't think destro is dead at all. Infact (and this is just from personal experience) i think the healing nerfs and resil buff helped us. Since the patch I have had an easier time with warriors and rogues... healers are a tad tuffer. In 3s we have two destro locks and a disc priest (yes we know we a dumb for doing this but they are friends and we enjoy the challenge) and we have beaten comps that would have stomped us last season. I do doubt that we will see above 1800 but so far i defiantly think we are in better shape than last season.

Hellheimer, i do believe that only 3% hit is needed for arena.
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Old February 23, 2010, 05:04 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Dalante
80 Undead Warlock
Magtheridon US PvP
Guild: Fatal Dynasty
Re: 3.3 destro dead ?

kk so as of now i have been rolling afflic for pvp. When i go in BG or WG i dont really get all that punch power. I fell like im a "bee that just wont leave" all i do is dot dot dot dc/fear life drain. My kill count is really low. Now with eveything i hav been reading and researching I thought afflic was the way to go. When i go into WG i see alot of destros going in and doing their thing. I did roll destro wen i was starting to get my pvp gear but i had such a hard time with it kept getting interrupted and all that jazz. So if i could get any kind of input on what it REALLY looks like from locks that was be great. P.s. my 3s team fell part and i am the only member left lol oh well guess that happens
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Old February 25, 2010, 11:28 AM   #8 (permalink)

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Kilrain
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Nesingwary US PvE
Guild: The Red Dragon Highlords
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Re: 3.3 destro dead ?

Paired with a priest in 2's and almost exclusively run affl there. For BG's and WG i mostly run destro, but affl can be a lot of fun in the BG's. I found in 2v2, I can do more damage in the long run with affl. DoT move, change target, DoT rinse & repeat as needed. I just do not have the time needed to get my nukes out in destro. Now when I move to 3's and 5's it will (should) be a different story.

In the BG's and WG I minimize getting interrupted in destro by using DC, sick my succy on them, start DoT'ing them up, fear and finish with Chaos & SB if needed. It is a lot of fun to do that to the trees as well. Watch them run and pay more attention to healing themselves rather their comrades. Can also throw a quick banish on them to further frustrate the opposition. Of course this does not always work if your opponent is on the ball, or just better than you are. And as always, PvP is dynamic and you must constantly adapt.
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Old April 15, 2010, 05:27 AM   #9 (permalink)

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onelastflash
80 Undead Warlock
blade's edge Euro PvE
Guild: tribe
3.3 Re: 3.3 destro dead ?

guys what are you saying affli feels like a bee in bgs ? some just specc destro for wg and bgs ? wth affliction is so powerfull if utilized to its full potential !

and i aint no hero when it comes to gear just pointing out affliction is pretty bg viable.

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Old April 26, 2010, 03:12 AM   #10 (permalink)

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Kalvicton
80 Undead Warlock
Drak'thul US PvP
Guild: Blood Wraiths
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Re: 3.3 destro dead ?

Destro most assuredly isn't "dead" in 3.3.
I love destro PvP, and in BGs, I rape.

Unfortunately, I've had to switch my PvP spec to 54/17/0 due to destro's fail in 2v2.
I am the primary kill target if the other team has half a brain between them, and I simply don't have enough options to even get myself some breathing room, let alone immolate+conflag+CB. To even have a shot, I must use nearly all my defensive cooldowns immediately (shadowfury or death coil + fear, trinket, and often teleport, and then of course they may also trinket or such), and they're gone for the rest of the fight -- because when you PvP with destro, it'll be a fast fight most likely, for better or for worse.

If I find myself a decent 5s or even 3s team, I'll definitely try destro again. I imagine it'd do better in that situation, and my experience from a few 5s skirmishes with buddies confirms that for the most part.

I'd love to see destro get some love for 2s, because I enjoy destro PvP much more than affliction (I wanna melt faces!), but it may be that Blizzard is perfectly fine with affliction being the only truly viable 2s spec, and if that's the case there's not much I can do about it. Not like we're the only class/spec with that problem.
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