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Old April 10, 2010, 07:12 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Azhrarn
85 Undead Warlock
Skullcrusher Euro PvE
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Guild: Instant Glory
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Tree: Destruction
3.3 Trying new build Affli for arena/BG

I found several builds for affli pvp but I always like to give it my own touch.
I made the following build, if anyone please can elaborate what bad choices I made and why or if it is a good build to try out.

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Old April 10, 2010, 02:35 PM   #2 (permalink)

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80 Undead Warlock
Shadowsong US PvE
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Re: Trying new build Affli for arena/BG

Death's Embrace: FOr this to work, you have to re-apply the DoTs once they are under the percentage.

Improved Shadow Bolt: Extra damage is always nice, but as Affliction, you aren't going to want to be spending all your time casting S-Bolt, and you don't have Nightfall, which is amazing.

While the idea is good, it probably won't work out very well; Those lack of instant S-Bolts, Lack of ability to summon a demon near-instantly, and less time to CC and move are going to hurt ya.
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Old April 10, 2010, 02:36 PM   #3 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Terenas Euro PvE
Re: Trying new build Affli for arena/BG

I have no clue what is good or bad for PvP, but here's some random thoughts:

Grim Reach: I find a bit more range in PvP quite useful
Dark Pact: Getting mana without loosing health is nice. Quite dependent on the pet though, but still, I think it's useful
Nightfall: An instant SB at the right time could be a winner. But it's pure RNG, so you might be better off without it.
Master Summoner: Could be useful to have

So, where would you take points out for this? Improved Shadow Bolt seems a candidate

I'm unsure about Shadow's Embrace. It sounds quite strong, boosting your damage and reducing HoTs on the target. However I guess it's unlikely to have 3 stacks on the target in PvP for a long time...
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Old April 10, 2010, 04:44 PM   #4 (permalink)

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85 Worgen Warlock
Rexxar US PvE
Guild: Tenacity
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Tree: Affliction
Re: Trying new build Affli for arena/BG

This is what I used to use but I don't pvp anymore and picked up a support demo spec to compliment my affl pve spec

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Old April 11, 2010, 09:11 PM   #5 (permalink)

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85 Undead Warlock
Skullcrusher Euro PvE
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Guild: Instant Glory
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Tree: Destruction
3.3 Re: Trying new build Affli for arena/BG

Thanks for the replies.

I have been looking critically to this build and considering to change some points.
I will definitly go for fast summoning and DE. I'll have to shift points to see if I can get nightfall.
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Old April 11, 2010, 09:46 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Galakrond US PvE
Guild: <Death and Destruction>
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Talent Tree: Demonology
3.3 Re: Trying new build Affli for arena/BG

Personally, I'd go for this The World of Warcraft Armory

I find the benefit from Improved shadow bolt isn't worth it for pvp because you rarely get a chance to plan your feet and spam it before they or you are dead, assuming you've already gotten your dots out.

I took those points and put them into Grim Reach, 1 into nightfall, and maxed out Shadow embrace. Shadow embrace is real clutch for pvp
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Old April 11, 2010, 11:02 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Azhrarn
85 Undead Warlock
Skullcrusher Euro PvE
PvP
Guild: Instant Glory
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Tree: Destruction
3.3 Re: Trying new build Affli for arena/BG

Gallrock, or any other poster.

Can you check my amory and see if the build i made is ok?

I have been doing some WG and BG with it and noticed I got used to a certain rotation. I was really tearing and lots of 1 vs 1 fights the ally had problems with me.

If you have any tips on where to shift points to I would like that.
The only thing i had problems with was rogues, probably using Cloak skill. Nothing would hit them for a short time.

Thank for the info.
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Old April 16, 2010, 02:57 AM   #8 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
The Venture Co. Euro RP PvE
Guild: Crescent Moon
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Re: Trying new build Affli for arena/BG

Hello,

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That's me, I've only just started playing Arena so I am completely new to this, but it seems that I came up with almost the same build as Azhrarn for Arena. I have a mix of furious and relentless gear and a lucky drop from VoA25 wrathfull bracers, I have 998res. My question is if I'm on the right path with this spec? And am I glyphed right?

I am new to this so any critique is welcome and apreciated.
Thanks.
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Old April 16, 2010, 04:07 AM   #9 (permalink)

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flyingade
80 Human Warlock
dragonblight Euro PvE
Guild: shadowforest brotherhood
Re: Trying new build Affli for arena/BG

something i have never noticed before is the reduced healing from shadow embrace, am i reading it right that with with full 3 stacks it reduces the periodic healing by 30%?

so i should maybe keep haunt up on one target only and dot/cc the other?

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Old April 16, 2010, 04:37 AM   #10 (permalink)

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Azhrarn
85 Undead Warlock
Skullcrusher Euro PvE
PvP
Guild: Instant Glory
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Tree: Destruction
3.3 Re: Trying new build Affli for arena/BG

Good question.
I never notice a lot of returning hp from talents except for Haunt.

I did some 2 vs 2 skirmished in between BGs and I got my ass handed to me. My resi is also around 980 and working on spell pen.
The only thing I hate is that my SB's are so damn slow to cast. My haste is not that bad but I wonder If i should shift some points into the Destro tree for Ruin and Imp. SB.
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