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Old February 06, 2011, 08:10 PM   #1 (permalink)

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4.0 Cata starting to feel like WOTLK ?

I had really been looking forward to this expansion. Blizzard stating that they wanted Arenas to last longer, and actually reward having (and using) a brain in PVP. During the last few weeks it is starting to feel like Wrath of the Lich King again. Insane burst, and players just training you burning all cd's getting a kill in 5 seconds. Is anyone else feeling that this expansion is starting to feel like Wrath of the Lich King all over again?
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Old February 07, 2011, 02:57 AM   #2 (permalink)

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4.0 Re: Cata starting to feel like WOTLK ?

3500 resilience, and a friend, thats what you need. Pvping alone is useless

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Old February 07, 2011, 04:01 AM   #3 (permalink)

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4.0 Re: Cata starting to feel like WOTLK ?

I'm starting to see that DPS is scaling much more than health. Maybe not this tier, but next tier I'm pretty sure PvP will be as bursty as it was in lich king... even with all that resi.
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Old February 07, 2011, 06:31 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Re: Cata starting to feel like WOTLK ?

With my resilience just now breaking 2500 (I am not big on PvP beyond casually fun bgs) PvP feels more like a chess match than a nuke fest. Six trips into the arena last week with a rogue friend and I was trained each time. My survival time was shocking and we did go 5-1 with the 5 teams we conquered having a frost mage/ random melee plate class.

I am not seeing anyone able to burn me down in the five seconds some complain about so I am not seeing the issue.
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Old February 07, 2011, 07:51 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Re: Cata starting to feel like WOTLK ?

I have to agree with Charnyl. I have almost 3k resilience, and am never burned down in 5 secs. Combine that with death coil, healthstone, drain life, and meta, and I feel almost invincible. One on one, I'm pretty much always assured a win. Often, I can even take on two in world PvP, and come out relatively unscathed.
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Old February 07, 2011, 08:42 AM   #6 (permalink)

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4.0 Re: Cata starting to feel like WOTLK ?

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I have to agree with Charnyl. I have almost 3k resilience, and am never burned down in 5 secs. Combine that with death coil, healthstone, drain life, and meta, and I feel almost invincible. One on one, I'm pretty much always assured a win. Often, I can even take on two in world PvP, and come out relatively unscathed.
Most of this will end when our passive healing goes down the drain. You need around 16k dps to get the same healing as we have now. I did 2v2 last week and the avg dps in arena is closer to 3-5k. Go figure.
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Old February 07, 2011, 09:18 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Lots of people are QQing about how OP the selfhealing is for warlocks right now. Too bad they are nerfing fel armor. But I already planned on shifting things like maybe use Soulburn+healthstone for more hp and as affli in arena I almost never get down 75% health (partner is a resto shammy). I think other speccs might have more problems with it. With 3k resi and a resto shammy I feel very safe.
Hopefully after the patch Blizz will direct their nerfbat to some other classes (coughmagecough)
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Old February 07, 2011, 03:10 PM   #8 (permalink)

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4.0 Re: Cata starting to feel like WOTLK ?

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3500 resilience, and a friend, thats what you need. Pvping alone is useless
LOL, I have both. It's kind of required for arena play. I am not talking BG's. I'm just sensing an issue with burst as gear gets upgraded. Even now, I can get burned down pretty quickly, alltough 5 secs might be a bit exaggerated.

I am feeling the aura of Wrath of the Lich King creeping up on this expansion, and I don't like it.
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Old February 09, 2011, 03:35 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Re: Cata starting to feel like WOTLK ?

I am playing afflic in arena at the moment, have 3167 resil and partner a good warrior. In 2s last week we met 3 teams that took us apart in seconds (not 5 seconds, but probably not over 30 secs).

1 team was 2 mages. These we played several times and despite landing some CC immediately to try to slow them down, they just spammed one of us to nothing very quickly.

1 team was a warrior and mage. Warrior was terrifying. I used every trick I could including all my heals, SS+TP, my snare and DL, but he just got in my face, stuck to me like glue and burned through my HPs.

1 team was rogue + feral. We played these a few times and CC bought us so space, but there was never any real competition. Once they got on me with a howl and TP on CD, I just melted.
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Old February 09, 2011, 05:35 AM   #10 (permalink)

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4.0 Re: Cata starting to feel like WOTLK ?

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I am playing afflic in arena at the moment, have 3167 resil and partner a good warrior. In 2s last week we met 3 teams that took us apart in seconds (not 5 seconds, but probably not over 30 secs).

1 team was 2 mages. These we played several times and despite landing some CC immediately to try to slow them down, they just spammed one of us to nothing very quickly.

1 team was a warrior and mage. Warrior was terrifying. I used every trick I could including all my heals, SS+TP, my snare and DL, but he just got in my face, stuck to me like glue and burned through my HPs.

1 team was rogue + feral. We played these a few times and CC bought us so space, but there was never any real competition. Once they got on me with a howl and TP on CD, I just melted.
Keeping melee from getting behind you reduces the damage they can do with their sharp pointy sticks, why do you think they always try to get behind you? Do your best to face them with a dl or ds channeling and that will help.
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