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Old March 28, 2005, 11:45 AM   #21 (permalink)

Orc Warlock duelling Undead Warlcok

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if you have a felhunter and he has a succubus you will lose. seduce you and banish felhunter simultaniously. there is a bug that lests seduce be cast slightly before a duel starts so there really is little hope if the other warlock is decent.
Can't the Felhunter spell-lock the banish? If I was the Felhunter lock, I'd lock the first shadow spell I see. Then Devour Seduction from myself. Then Banish the Suc.

All in theory of course :D

I also have another really random question. Does CoT mess with spell-lock? When I lock mobs, and immediately CoT them, they seem to "break" out of spell-lock immediately. (but keep CoT on them) Does CoT overwrite the spell-lock or something? I'm probably just crazy. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this.
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Old March 28, 2005, 02:30 PM   #22 (permalink)

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there was a listed change in the patch notes that allowed us to control our pets while we are out of control.

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You can issue pet commands while you are stunned, fleeing, etc.
taken from the Pets section of the patch notes.

if you have a felhunter and he has a succubus you will lose. seduce you and banish felhunter simultaniously. there is a bug that lests seduce be cast slightly before a duel starts so there really is little hope if the other warlock is decent.
If i have felhunter and a warlock has Succubus, he loses, no matter if he seduces me at the begining or not.

Ill spell lock his Banish/fear, then eat the Seduce, then Banish his Succubus, COT the Warlock, Fear the warlock, at this point he's done.

Edit: Forgot to mention Felhunter Resists alot of Banishes as well, one time it took me 3 tries to Banish another Warlocks Dog after i feared him away, i <3 my doggy.
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Old March 28, 2005, 02:34 PM   #23 (permalink)

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i seduce and cast immolate, the warlock always spell locks first. then i banish as he eats seduce, reseduce. at that point i've won. i've never lost to a warlock dueling with my succubus to their felhunter. never.
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Old March 28, 2005, 02:37 PM   #24 (permalink)

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spell lock when Shadow hands glow, not fire =P

And you better hope he isnt Demonology spec'd either. lol
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Old March 28, 2005, 09:01 PM   #25 (permalink)

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then cast Shadow Bolt. it's destruction while Banish is demonology. demonologists aren't that bad. banish pet, fear the warlock. it might be a little tougher, but if i juggle him for a bit i'm fine. affliction/dem warlocks have plenty of tricks to help stay alive.
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Old March 29, 2005, 10:33 AM   #26 (permalink)

banish

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then cast Shadow Bolt. it's destruction while Banish is demonology.
Does that work? I thought the "spell-line" was based on resists: arcane, fire, frost, shadow, nature. So Shadowbolt and Banish would both be locked, since they are both Shadow based. Is that correct?

If Shadowbolt and Banish are separate, how come I read about Rogues always kicking "when their (us) hands glow black"? Wouldn't the Shadowbolt "fake" work in that case too, allowing you to fear after the kick?

I really honestly don't know the answer, but I'd love to find out for sure. I'll try testing when I play next.
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Old March 29, 2005, 10:51 AM   #27 (permalink)

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Does CoT affect Succubus Seduce? It IS a spell, right?

If so, use CoT on the Succubus and THEN banish it.

I don't duel much. I'd rather whack opposite faction for real. Heh.
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Old March 29, 2005, 11:12 AM   #28 (permalink)

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Non-demonologist warlocks do not have a chance vs full demonology. Soul link is just too huge of a damage reduction on other Locks, even full destruction since they wont get off a soulfire.

Affliction locks dont have a chance either, nightfall and fel concentration is great for PvE, in pvp it sucks cause theres too many ways to interupt drainlife. Go ahead and shadowbolt me when you get your 1 or 2 nightfall procs in the fight, most likely i have shadow ward up anyways. Affliction doesnt have enough DPS to get through soul link, im sorry its just not happening, especially without Ruin.

About the imp, i love his stamina buff, in fact i have him at 3/3 improved to get the maximum buff from him and because you pretty much are forced to put points there to reach soul link. However, the Range on the buff is too low, Tanks and other party mates run in and out of the range and makes the buff useless unless you can somehow manage to at least being close to the main tank the whole instance run. Its quite anoying to see people's health go up and down because of the low range of the buff. But again its your choice, you have the Option which is whats great about it. If you value the buff more then extra DPS on shadowbolts or fire damage keep the pet, if you want good DPS sacrifice it. Its all about flexibility which is one of the main reasons i choose this tree line.
I havent tested full dest yet, but i did test ruin and Dark pact so i know what each tree can do.
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