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Old January 23, 2008, 05:37 AM   #21 (permalink)

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Re: Kara and the Curator road block

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Curator is really a DPS race before the enrage timer. In my groups, if we don't have him to 68% or less when the first Evocate ends it's a wipe. If you can get him to 63-64% or better you will not see the enrage timer at all. In terms of pacing, if you drop him by a third health during each evocate he will enrage at 1%.

Something I see that is often a problem is healers overhealing on this fight and OOM at around 10%. Urge your healers to keep most of the party at 2/3 health consistently and not to shoot for topping the whole party off. And follow the other tips regarding flare managment and Curse of Doom.
Hate to break it to you but he evocates 20 seconds in every 2 minutes you have 10 minutes, you have therefore have 5 evocates, not 3.
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Old January 23, 2008, 09:03 AM   #22 (permalink)

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Re: Kara and the Curator road block

Practically speaking, if you cannot drop Curator within 3 Evocations, it is likely you wont be able to drop him at all. Because your healers wont have mana to keep going for much longer than that.

I remember when our team first struggled with Curator, and it wasnt until we went from 3 healers to 2 we finally cracked him. The key is that having that extra DPS instead of the 3rd healer means flares goes down faster and there is less need for healing. It also means much more DPS time during Evocate since the last flare dies faster and that means a shorter fight, which again reduces the pressure on your healers.

Regarding the chaining attacks, its pointless to try avoiding them when you have that much melee DPS. The maximum number of people that will get hit is 3, so you might as well have everyone except the healers bunch up right behind the MT. This also means that your melee's wont have to run all over the place to chase flares, since the flares will be in next to time. You are wasting a lot of DPS by forcing the melees to run after them. Just make sure one of the ranged DPS use an instant attack on each flare as i spawns, so they get aggro before a healer does.
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Old January 23, 2008, 10:16 AM   #23 (permalink)

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Re: Kara and the Curator road block

Just want to make sure I have this right.

2 melee DPS means trying to avoid the chains is pointless because they only chain to 3 people (so if we're spread out that is melee dps +1)?
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Old January 23, 2008, 11:13 AM   #24 (permalink)

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Just want to make sure I have this right.

2 melee DPS means trying to avoid the chains is pointless because they only chain to 3 people (so if we're spread out that is melee dps +1)?
IMO, yes. Others may have other opinions on the matter, but I feel the advantages of spreading the raid out are too small compared to the DPS that your melee's lose by chasing flares and the extra healing this costs you because the flares are not being killed as fast as they could be.

Curator himself doesnt do a lot of damage, so killing the flares should be your primary focus. Every second they live longer is more damage taken by the raid, and by gathering the raid in one spot you can kill them faster. And since the chain lightning is most likely going to hit 2 or 3 people no matter how you place the raid, its a waste of DPS to spread out. If all your DPS was ranged, this might be a different matter.
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Old February 08, 2008, 03:06 PM   #25 (permalink)

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Re: Kara and the Curator road block

Just a quick update and thank you. We downed Curator about 2 weeks ago. I think bouncing stuff around here and hearing what you all had to advise helped us out a lot so thanks for helping us out.
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Old February 08, 2008, 09:24 PM   #26 (permalink)

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Re: Kara and the Curator road block

Lots of great advice from everyone here so I'll be brief. We have no problem with Curator and here's how we do it:

1 - I stand off to the right and ahead of the main group and I focus solely on Curator. The only other person out there is the tank who is right on Curator. I CofD, DOT and SB him non-stop (as stated previously, timing of CofD is crucial)
2 - I also am Bolt Soaker and have no special resistance gear, which is no problem because
3 - Best healer is on me full time and sometimes bubbles me
4 - Two dedicated full time to bolts, usually a good hunter and a rogue
5 - Everyone else is on curator full time
6 - Other healer is on tank and raid (best healer helps out when I am not in need)
7 - Using health pots, bandages and soulstones is crucial to help healer (I usually try not to use the health pot unless absolutely necessary so I can use a mana pot instead)
8 - Pots and buffs for increased damage are also critical to burn Curator down as fast as possible
9 - You must not run out of mana, so Dark Pact with Imp, Life Tap and Mana Pots
10 - Healer on me gets the Soulstone
11 - Did I mention Amplify Curse/Curse of Doom?
12 - Did I mention Amplify Curse/Curse of Doom?
13 - Did I mention Amplify Curse/Curse of Doom?

Good Luck!
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Old February 09, 2008, 12:34 PM   #27 (permalink)

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Re: Kara and the Curator road block

CoD seems to be the critical factor here. I've been in Kara only once with a semi-PUG. Leader just said to CoD when he yells out one minute to evocate. Doing that, we downed him in 4:32 very easily. So kill flares quickly and get CoD on curator at 1 minute to evocate and he will fall like a rock. Even a noob (i.e., me) can do it ;)
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Old February 09, 2008, 03:43 PM   #28 (permalink)

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Re: Kara and the Curator road block

Make sure to tell any priests to wait until the 2nd evocation and drop their shadow fiend during evo. It will give them a full mana bar.

Eveyrone else's suggestions are great. A targetting and nuking macro helps with the flares to get them as soon as they spawn. Personally, we always left the flare that spawns right at the beginning of evocation but if you are dying to flares then you will definitely want to kill it first. Suggest everyone make a macro to /target astral. They are targettable before they fully appear. If you wait for them to appear you are losing out on about 1.5s of dps time on them.
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Old February 22, 2008, 07:35 PM   #29 (permalink)

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Re: Kara and the Curator road block

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When we were learning Curator, our issue was a few DPSers who either:

1. were using DoTs

2. were not targeting fast enough

3. thought it would be better to not say anything and just DPS the curator.

Use the /tar astral macro, and make sure everyone else in your raid is using it.

Use a ui mod that shows your raid targets - every DPS should be on the flare within 1.5s of it spawning, if not sooner. With raid targets up, you can see who is not targeting fast enough and tell them to make their macro, and keybind it.

Keep drilling it into people's heads, and you'll get it.


We are having a hard time on curator as well. It seems the first two flares goes fine, then all just goes to hell. I don't have the macro for target but I will do so, and that should make a big difference....TY for the tips
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Old February 25, 2008, 05:38 AM   #30 (permalink)

Re: Kara and the Curator road block

I downed him for the first time yesterday (guild has took him down before though). I missed the raid leader's 1 minute warning for the amped CoD and BigWigs warns at 70 seconds and 30 seconds which isn't very helpful - siwtching to DBM now. Probably cost me top spot on the damage meter as well (and me forgetting to pop in my bloodgem for the hit boost)! We had a warrior tank him at the second set of pillars with the ranged and healers more or less in a line at the back wall near the entrance and one rogue on curator and the other on flare duty.

Tanking him far back makes sure you can see the flares really clearly and tab targeting worked really well for me. I kept DoTs up thoughout then nuked during evocation. With 3 good healers it seemed like an easy fight.

Quick question, is CoW any use on the enrage phase?
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