Raid Groups

toohotforu · June 20, 2008, 01:34 PM

Do any of y'all get the shaft when it comes to raid groups? My guild has 3 raiding locks (2 destro including me and an aff. lock). I'm constantly put into a melee or tank group and never get into the boomkin, s priest, shaman group.

The mages usually whore out this group and whine to the gm if they're not in it. I'm usually in the top 5 on boss fight despite being in those crappy groups but was wondering if I should start bitching about being put into the better group?

I'm pretty sure if you'd take the mages outta that group and put me and the other destro lock we'd pull far ahead of the mages on the charts. The other raiding s priest is put into the healer group for mana regen so thats not an option either.

Just was curious if any of ya'll experience this "bastard treatment" locks in my guild receive.

Pandawolf · June 20, 2008, 01:39 PM

My guild's raid leader is a destro lock, so I tagged along and gets special treatment in the caster buff group <3

Sabille · June 20, 2008, 02:15 PM

Yeah, I know what you're going through, I'm psyched to get put with our healing shammy, a shadow priest though? Not for this lock. I don't mind too much, I still top meters

delune · June 20, 2008, 02:23 PM

Sometimes we raid with 5 locks.

I also usually get put in with the melee group since I am aff without any desirable buffs and usually also end out at least in the top five (one of our destro locks and a DP/ruin lock usually are the only ones to beat me). It does get kind of frustrating sometimes when I know I could be doing more damage if I were in a group that had some nice buffs and I wasn't always on cos/coe duty. If your raid does not need you to be in the melee group or you see a group that you could be switched into, it would be wise to try and make a comment to your raid leader to see if you could be switched.

Pure Balance · June 20, 2008, 02:56 PM

Eh I've been getting shitty groups lately but still rape all the other casters on the damage meters. There could be a variety of reasons why, but most of it could(should) have to do with gear when your raid leader has you in a group that might be not the most beneficial. Maybe your other casters are lacking in crit and could use a moonkin more than you. Maybe they have more haste which will have them benefit more from wrath of air totem etc and you'd have more benefit from a group that may have a drum rotation. Best thing to do would be to ask

dogwatch · June 20, 2008, 03:23 PM

My last run in Gruuls showed in the 25man raid. The top damage and DPS were the only 2 warlocks in the raid. #1 destro spec lock #2 myself. Neither of us were in what you would consider the good or lead group yet the locks still brought on the heavy damage and DPS.

toohotforu · June 23, 2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pure Balance

Eh I've been getting shitty groups lately but still rape all the other casters on the damage meters. There could be a variety of reasons why, but most of it could(should) have to do with gear when your raid leader has you in a group that might be not the most beneficial. Maybe your other casters are lacking in crit and could use a moonkin more than you. Maybe they have more haste which will have them benefit more from wrath of air totem etc and you'd have more benefit from a group that may have a drum rotation. Best thing to do would be to ask

I'm ahead of most of the casters on most of the fights. They are lacking crit and im at 25% unbuffed so I think that's the main reason.

Another question. I can't seem to beat an arcane mage on overall damage in MH. Is this the same for others or I am just sucking it up and need to play better. Just asking because his overall was significially more than mine. he was #1 and I was #2 on overall damage.

Desperation · June 23, 2008, 01:54 PM

Alot of raid leaders are horrible at making proper raid compositions. Its part of WoW.

If I ever get in a raid were the raid leader doesn't know what he is doing I will make a recommendation without trying to look like a smart ***.

Funny thing is, the majority of people who play this game dont really understand the synergy between classes.

The_Torch · June 23, 2008, 02:13 PM

If you're already topping damage meters then you're probably in the right group.

Another way to put is... Why would you need better buffs if you're already doing more than your fair share of damage?

Let the other classes get the buffs they so desperately need while you quietly get the job done well without them.

Barclande · June 23, 2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Torch

If you're already topping damage meters then you're probably in the right group.

Another way to put is... Why would you need better buffs if you're already doing more than your fair share of damage?

Let the other classes get the buffs they so desperately need while you quietly get the job done well without them.

At first they never seemed to care where we locks were, and I really didn't care as we were doing fine anyway. Then one day, one of the other locks asks to get put in a better group. Just so happened, this is the same day I switched to Destro. Was funny watching me keep up with a lock in a group with 3 Shammies and a Druid while I was in the second healer group with 2 Pallies and 2 priests. After that, they started putting me in good groups, and I started pulling aggro....lol. Then they put me in crap groups again.

June 20, 2008, 01:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
toohotforu Registered Character Info toohotforu 70 Gnome Warlock Burning Blade US PvP Guild: Denied Society Talent Spec: 0/21/40	Raid Groups Do any of y'all get the shaft when it comes to raid groups? My guild has 3 raiding locks (2 destro including me and an aff. lock). I'm constantly put into a melee or tank group and never get into the boomkin, s priest, shaman group. The mages usually whore out this group and whine to the gm if they're not in it. I'm usually in the top 5 on boss fight despite being in those crappy groups but was wondering if I should start bitching about being put into the better group? I'm pretty sure if you'd take the mages outta that group and put me and the other destro lock we'd pull far ahead of the mages on the charts. The other raiding s priest is put into the healer group for mana regen so thats not an option either. Just was curious if any of ya'll experience this "bastard treatment" locks in my guild receive.

June 20, 2008, 01:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
Pandawolf Lurker Character Info Pandawolf 70 Gnome Warlock Mal'Ganis US PvP Guild: Self Titled Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/21/40	Re: Raid Groups My guild's raid leader is a destro lock, so I tagged along and gets special treatment in the caster buff group <3

June 20, 2008, 02:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sabille Registered Character Info Sabille 70 Human Warlock Scarlet Crusade US RP Guild: Immortalis Talent Spec: 1/44/16	Re: Raid Groups Yeah, I know what you're going through, I'm psyched to get put with our healing shammy, a shadow priest though? Not for this lock. I don't mind too much, I still top meters

June 20, 2008, 02:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
delune Registered Character Info Candretta 70 Human Warlock Duskwood US PvE Talent Spec: 42/2/17	Re: Raid Groups Sometimes we raid with 5 locks. I also usually get put in with the melee group since I am aff without any desirable buffs and usually also end out at least in the top five (one of our destro locks and a DP/ruin lock usually are the only ones to beat me). It does get kind of frustrating sometimes when I know I could be doing more damage if I were in a group that had some nice buffs and I wasn't always on cos/coe duty. If your raid does not need you to be in the melee group or you see a group that you could be switched into, it would be wise to try and make a comment to your raid leader to see if you could be switched.

June 20, 2008, 02:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
Pure Balance Member Character Info Purebalance 70 Human Warlock Muradin US PvE Guild: Shadowraven Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/21/40	Re: Raid Groups Eh I've been getting shitty groups lately but still rape all the other casters on the damage meters. There could be a variety of reasons why, but most of it could(should) have to do with gear when your raid leader has you in a group that might be not the most beneficial. Maybe your other casters are lacking in crit and could use a moonkin more than you. Maybe they have more haste which will have them benefit more from wrath of air totem etc and you'd have more benefit from a group that may have a drum rotation. Best thing to do would be to ask

June 20, 2008, 03:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
dogwatch Member Character Info Phearcat 70 Human Warlock Crushridge US PvP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 6/45/10	Re: Raid Groups My last run in Gruuls showed in the 25man raid. The top damage and DPS were the only 2 warlocks in the raid. #1 destro spec lock #2 myself. Neither of us were in what you would consider the good or lead group yet the locks still brought on the heavy damage and DPS.

June 23, 2008, 01:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
Desperation Member Character Info Desperation 70 Undead Warlock Kalecgos US PvP Guild: The Unholy Legion Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 2/13/46	Re: Raid Groups Alot of raid leaders are horrible at making proper raid compositions. Its part of WoW. If I ever get in a raid were the raid leader doesn't know what he is doing I will make a recommendation without trying to look like a smart ***. Funny thing is, the majority of people who play this game dont really understand the synergy between classes.

June 23, 2008, 02:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
The_Torch Lurker	Re: Raid Groups If you're already topping damage meters then you're probably in the right group. Another way to put is... Why would you need better buffs if you're already doing more than your fair share of damage? Let the other classes get the buffs they so desperately need while you quietly get the job done well without them.